[time-nuts] problem with Efratom FRS-C from eBay
rdarlington at gmail.com
Fri Oct 17 23:24:01 UTC 2008
For the record, security at this place hasn't improved much since then. In
three years working there I was never stopped a single time, no matter how
many hard drives or computers I carried in and out of buildings and between
sides of the security fence. I heard about ONE guy that got searched and
they blamed it on his red badge (foreign national, in this case from
Canada). Heads rolled over that one. National security is nowhere near as
important to that place as is being politically correct.
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions. I don't know how I can return this if
it falls under ITAR or other export control regulations. We'll see.
-Bob ( in Los Alamos!)
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Tim Shoppa <shoppa at trailing-edge.com>wrote:
> SAIDJACK at aol.com wrote:
> > My question: I was told by people in-the-know that Rubidium Atomic
> > references are illegal to export to China, and folks have gone to jail
> > sending these to China.
> I am guessing that whatever shows up in that store, has been
> removed from surplus telco equipment that got sent to China as
> part of reclamation.
> > Does anyone know if this restriction has been lifted? If not, I wonder
> > they got access to so many Rb's.
> But they're the ones selling them to us :-). I'm guessing that new
> Rubidium standards are made up of 98% Chinese parts, if not 100%.
> Sort of like when Feynman was at Los Alamos, he found a hole in the fence,
> and used it sneak out and then come in through the official guarded
> entrance 5 times in the same hour. As near as they could tell, there
> wasn't any rule about coming in without leaving first!
> Modern nuclear plant security is actually very picky about this and
> they don't let you come in twice without leaving in between.
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