[time-nuts] reference oscillator input circuit
John Ackermann N8UR
jra at febo.com
Wed Dec 8 15:46:12 UTC 2010
Wenzel has some discussion and circuits at:
The Shera GPSDO made clever use of the input circuit of a 74HCT4046 PLL
chip for squaring.
On 12/8/2010 10:31 AM, jimlux wrote:
> I'm looking for suggestions on a general circuit that can be used to
> receive an external frequency reference (nominally a real clean sine
> wave at, say, 10 MHz, although up to 100 MHz is possible) and turn it
> into a "real clean" square wave. Galvanic isolation is a plus (a
> transformer or capacitor would probably do that).
> I was thinking about rummaging through the schematics for test equipment
> reference inputs (since they've already "solved" the problem, eh?), but
> any other ideas would be welcome.
> I've scanned the archives of time-nuts, and while we have a fair amount
> of discussion on how to square up the 1Hz (or 100Hz) in a phase
> noise/ADEV setup, not so much on what to do with the 10 MHz. Rick has
> commented that you don't want to use a comparator. I have the papers by
> Dick, et al, and Collins, as well as all the others.. they tend to be
> looking at the low frequency problem, although the analysis is certainly
> I don't know that I'm looking for the whole multiple limiting stages
> scheme in any case.
> Oh, as far as performance.. Say the need is to not horribly degrade a
> good quality crystal oscillator... here's a typical set of specs:
> 76 MHz
> 1Hz <-90dBc
> 10Hz <-110dBc
> 100Hz <-120dBc
> 1k-100k <-125dBc
> Adevs of the oscillator run from 5E-12 at 0.1 sec, down to 1E-12 at 10
> sec, and back up to 2 E-12 at 1000sec.
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