[time-nuts] DMTD to MMTD

Bob Camp lists at cq.nu
Thu Feb 18 00:24:19 UTC 2010


Hi

No Windows 7 driver signing issues with a serial port. USB can be a bit of a tangle that way, not as easy as it used to be.

Bob


On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:

> Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>>>> I don't know if there's a FIFO in front of the UART (e.g. what if you get simultaneous zero
>>>>       
>>> crossings).. but I would expect there is.
>>>     
>>>> The "hard work" is in the zero crossing detector ahead of the FPGA. (and perhaps in the latching of
>>>>       
>>> the ZCD inputs into the FPGA).
>>>     
>>>> Given how long ago it was made, that FPGA isn't a huge one.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>> Using 8 flag bits (one per channel) together with the associated time
>>> stamp is a little more efficient and very easy to do and it doesn't
>>> require a FIFO to ensure that simultaneous zero crossings aren't missed.
>>> 
>>>     
>> Still need the FIFO..
>> Say you got one zero crossing at 0x01000 and the next at 0x01001  (where the number is the 20 bits in hex).. you'd still be sending the characters out the UART for the 0x01000 crossing when the next crossing occurred 10ns later.
>> 
>> If I were doing it today (and I have no idea how Steve built it 10 years ago), I'd do something like a character for channel number and direction (ascii 0 through 7 for positive going, 8 through F for negative going) and 5 characters for the count (in hex), followed by a carriage return. All printable characters, easy for testing, no hiccups with DOS or some device driver trying to interpret binary, etc.
>> 
>> You've got 8 channels, each zerocrossing at about 200-300 Hz (the difference frequency is 123 or 124 Hz, so you get twice that many zero crossings), or about 1600-2400 messages/second.  At 6 characters per message, that's about 10,000 characters per second, so you'd need a fairly fast UART to keep up. (OTOH, the article mentions dropping characters..)
>> 
>> They might have only used one direction of zero crossing, which gets you down to the 5000 characters per second, which you might be able to squeeze into a 38.4kbps serial stream, especially if you go to a denser packing.  But you'll still need a FIFO.
>> 
>> Next time I see one of the FTL guys, I'll ask.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>>   
> A LAN, USB or Firewire interface may be more appropriate all are easy to implement.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
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