[time-nuts] Determining Time-Nut infection severity.
sar10538 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 25 03:26:45 UTC 2010
On 25 October 2010 14:21, Heathkid <heathkid at heathkid.com> wrote:
> This sounds like a new project/kit... a TOD clock. Simple... monitor
> heartbeat (easy enough and I know it's not the only thing involved but if it
> stops... so do you usually... but KISS should be kept in mind for this or it
> gets WAY to complicated). Heartbeat and PPS... with GPS and/or/with a small
> Rb standard... Ticker stops ticking... *timestamp*! There we go. So,
> who's going to do the TOD kit? I'd prefer something very small and not
> obvious (like a watch that simply STOPS with a micro USB port to download
> the *accurate/precise* time stamp of TOD). Easy enough?
But isn't the clinical definition of death, brain death, as the heart
may stop but the person be resuscitated tens of seconds later. In our
terms, tens of seconds is like a lifetime so heatbeat is out as the
TOD metric. I would propose we develop a hat with inbuilt electrodes
that touch the scalp and measure brain activity. Once this has decayed
to the level as clinically defined as brain dead, a timestamp should
be made against a standard that is reasonably accurate to the degree
of uncertainty of the death event, IE. it is likely that the brain
activity will stop instantly with such a sharp cutoff as to be less
than a ms, us or whatever. The hat would include an integrated GPSDO
built upon a flexible PCB board design with integrated path antenna
positioned at the top. This could easily be powered by solar cells
charging very thin lithium ion flexible batteries embedded in the hat.
Of course the hat needs to be worn 24x7 so it would have to be of a
design that lends itself to sleeping hours as well therefore being a
sleeping cap so something like a beanie may be a starting point.
Extensions to the design may be a time display which would, of course,
double as the TOD display for those concerned with your internment and
the engraving of your tombstone. A PPS and disciplined oscillator
connection could also be incorporated as a form of mobile reference
for the wearer. As for cleaning, two of such hats would be owned by
the user with one "in the wash" while the other is being worn. Of
course, careful planning and design needs to be taken in the choice of
circuitry and construction so as to all the hat to be cleaned. There
is, of course, the faint possibility of death during the swapping of
but some careful planning of how to do the hat swap may alleviate this
> Yes, I'm infected but probably worse than most. If you've seen my list of
> gear and know that I don't even had the TBolt running yet (and have only
> powered up one of my Rb standards... and have a LOT of "kits" to build....
> etc.) you'd probably ALL place my TOD pretty quickly. ;)
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magnus Danielson"
> <magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org>
> To: <time-nuts at febo.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Determining Time-Nut infection severity.
>> On 10/24/2010 10:50 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>>> On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Richard H McCorkle wrote:
>>>> The disease will continue to progress until
>>>> ultimately all of the patients personal time and money are
>>>> exhausted or they die.
>>> One can only hope that the local coroner is also a Time-Nut, so that time
>>> of death can be determined with suitable accuracy and precision. Does
>>> anybody know how many bits of precision are used on tombstones these days?
>> The true report would not be correct without a traceability certificate
>> and confidence interval for the TOD indication, motivated by the measurement
>> inaccurancies and established TDEV measures.
>> Naturally the next of kin doesn't really care, as they now can dump all
>> the junk collected in the basement. The real mourning of the deceased from
>> fellow time-nuts comes when they realize just how much of precious gear has
>> been lost forever.
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