[time-nuts] Time of death-Again

Max Robinson max at maxsmusicplace.com
Fri Oct 29 02:01:45 UTC 2010


I was thinking of the nova event itself as a reference point in time.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme at americafree.tv>
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 
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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again


>
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Max Robinson wrote:
>
>> How about the crab supernova.
>>
>
> Msec pulsars are much more stable - see http://arxiv.org/pdf/0911.5534 for 
> some comparisons.
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>>
>> Email: max at maxsmusicplace.com
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jimlux" <jimlux at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 
>> <time-nuts at febo.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again
>>
>>
>>> Steve Rooke wrote:
>>>> One thing we should bear in mind that our tombstone timestamp should
>>>> have things like the timezone, and calendar in use, references, such
>>>> that future people can determine the exact point in time of our death.
>>>> In fact, basing the timestamp on some true reference point would
>>>> better than about 2000 years after some event happened on earth as
>>>> archaeologists from other words coming to the Earth in the future
>>>> would be left to figure out this arbitrary time event. I would propose
>>>> that we relate the year portion (which is the LSB and most important)
>>>> to some celestial event thereby making it possible to document this
>>>> easily for future life-forms to determine. The whole year/date thing
>>>> really should be made secular as there is no place for religion in the
>>>> governance of society.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this not the same problem we all face when specifying an absolute 
>>> time? Is it TAI? GPS? UTC? etc.
>>>
>>> And, then, if you are moving, the local time offsettime  relative to 
>>> some reference might be different at different times.
>>>
>>> I think this is a sort of relativity question, isn't it?  That is, you 
>>> just have to pick some place/time, and reference everything else to 
>>> that. So which astronomical event do you want use as your reference 
>>> (e.g. a T=0 epoch)and is it sufficiently well determined that you can 
>>> figure it out later?  It's all well and good, for instance, to use noon 
>>> on January 1st, 1900 or something as your time zero, but that's hardly a 
>>> universally available reference point.
>>>
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