[time-nuts] Neutrinos not so fast? (defectove connector)

Arnold Tibus arnold.tibus at gmx.de
Thu Feb 23 14:24:22 UTC 2012


Thanks Azelio,
so let's wait for domani ;-) ,

Arnold



Am 23.02.2012 15:12, schrieb Azelio Boriani:
> Yes, this doesn't mean the results are necessarily wrong but only
> questionable. Too bad we have to wait until May to know the "damage"
> extension on the observed results. Here in Italy, unfortunately and as
> usual, the announcement was distorted by our media today: now Einstein is
> the winner as much as he was a looser in September. As usual they are very
> fast in hanging or rising someone instead of shading the correct light on
> science information.
> And don't forget that nothing comes early here in Italy :)
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Arnold Tibus<arnold.tibus at gmx.de>  wrote:
>
>> Just for completeliness I was pointed to this information:
>>
>> http://www.nature.com/news/flaws-found-in-faster-than-light-neutrino-measurement-1.10099
>>
>> Arnold
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 23.02.2012 12:21, schrieb Azelio Boriani:
>>
>>> I have found the official CERN director's words: (from Marco URLs)
>>> Ecco l’annuncio del Direttore del CERN:
>>> The OPERA collaboration has informed its funding agencies and host
>>> laboratories that it has identified two possible effects that could have
>>> an
>>> influence on its neutrino timing measurement. These both require further
>>> tests with a short pulsed beam. If confirmed, one would increase the size
>>> of the measured effect, the other would diminish it. The first possible
>>> effect concerns an oscillator used to provide the time stamps for GPS
>>> synchronizations. It could have led to an overestimate of the neutrino’s
>>> time of flight. The second concerns the optical fibre connector that
>>> brings
>>> the external GPS signal to the OPERA master clock, which may not have been
>>> functioning correctly when the measurements were taken. If this is the
>>> case, it could have led to an underestimate of the time of flight of the
>>> neutrinos. The potential extent of these two effects is being studied by
>>> the OPERA collaboration. New measurements with short pulsed beams are
>>> scheduled for May”.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Magnus Danielson<
>>> magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi Javier,
>>>>
>>>> On 02/23/2012 09:42 AM, Javier Serrano wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   So please stay tuned for proper information. That's all I can say for
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Which is more or less all you should say. I agree fully with you.
>>>>    From a scientific point of view, all we have heard is indications, but
>>>> it
>>>> needs to be verified.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Magnus





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