[time-nuts] RE: [Manual_Exchange] HP woes.

John Miles jmiles at pop.net
Thu Apr 21 17:36:39 EDT 2005

-----Original Message-----
From: Manual_Exchange at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Manual_Exchange at yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chip_User
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:26 AM
To: Manual_Exchange at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Manual_Exchange] HP woes.

There may be a way to get HP's blessings for selling/distributing (pdf)
manuals.  Take a look at this item on ebay.  The seller declares
"Reproduced with Permission, Courtesy of Agilent Technologies, Inc."

Here's the result of my conversation with Manuals Plus (forwarded by

Hello John,

We had not seen or heard anything about this until your e-mail but rest easy

as several years ago we obtained after trying for a long time the writt en

permission to copy and distribut the older no longer supported equipement

manauls. They do not give that easily as they feel unless they are sure the

copies or reprints as we call them are good ones they would be bad for their

name and you proably have noticed as required we put our name on the manual

so there is no mistake where it came from.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention as it is very interesting but

you will as in the past be able to obtain manuals from Manuals Plus

completely within the law.



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No. Salt Lake City, UT 84054

ph: 801-936-7000

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We accept any major credit cards, checks,

money orders and purchase orders

(with an established account)

We ship via Fed Ex, UPS and US Mail.

Price quted are in US dollars.

If we do not have the item in stock, we

can put you on our "want list" for that


-----Original Message-----

From: John Miles [mailto:jmiles at pop.net]

Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:57 AM

To: sales at manualsplus.com

Subject: HP manuals

Hi --

I'm a customer of yours who's purchased several HP manuals in the past, and

I've always found your service extremely helpful when trying to bring a

piece of older HP gear back to life. I was wondering if you folks had any

comment on Agilent's recent campaign against people selling, giving away, or

otherwise distributing electronic and (rumor has it) print copies of HP



Do you anticipate being able to continue to supply HP equipment manuals in

light of this threat? If not, have you attempted to contact Agilent's legal

department to negotiate a license? I would hate to see all avenues of HP

manual distribution eliminated, and as Manuals Plus has always been my

primary vendor for these manuals, I thought it would be a good idea to check

with you directly.

Thanks! -- John Miles, KE5FX

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