[time-nuts] 10811 crystal orientation

Said Jackson saidjack at aol.com
Fri Jul 10 23:34:03 UTC 2009


Hello Tom,

this plot looks very similar to our standard double oven units. We  
have our low-g option, which reduces the deviation to about 2-  3E-10  
per g, they work great but do cost more than standard units..  
Coincidentally they also reduce sensitivity to vibration and "tapping"  
by 5x to 10x... I wish we could offer them at the same price, but they  
are very difficult to manufacture. That's why no one uses them by  
default in their product.

Bye, Said



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On Jul 10, 2009, at 15:51, "Tom Van Baak" <tvb at LeapSecond.com> wrote:

>> One is do crystal oscillators change frequency when they
>> are turned. The answer to that is yes. This gravitational
>> acceleration effect is rather huge, parts in ten to the 9th
>> or so, and anyone can see this. This is why you never
>> touch, bump, or move, or rotate a laboratory frequency
>> standard (this includes GPSDO and cesium standards).
>
> And to give you a *picture* instead of just numbers... Here is
> a plot showing frequency changes in an OCXO (this from a
> free-running Thunderbolt GPSDO) over the span of one hour.
> Every 5 minutes or so I rotated the rectangular box on some
> axis by 90 degrees.
>
> <http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/ocxo-2g/TBolt-2g-6axis.gif>
>
> You can see that the sudden frequency jumps due to change
> in g-force on the crystal are about -0.5e-9 to +1.5 e-9, which
> is 100x the normal frequency noise for this oscillator (about
> 2e-11 pk-pk or about 2e-12 adev).
>
> Hopefully this result won't come as a big surprise to anyone; the
> so-called "2g turn-over" spec is common for quality oscillators.
> Again, this is why when you enter the world of precision timing
> at 1e-10 and below you tend not to ever touch your standards.
>
> Now if one of you happened to have a fully-programmable 3-axis
> turntable and a couple of hours you could slowly create a most
> beautiful high-resolution 3D color plot showing the precise shift
> in frequency as a function of axis.
>
> /tvb
>
>
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