[time-nuts] GPS disciplined mechanical clocks

arie schellaars arie.schellaars at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 5 11:37:21 UTC 2009


Just to put in my twopenny worth;
In the current (March) issue of OZ electronics magazine "Silicon Chip"
is a project to lock a cheap battery operated clock to a GPS derived signal..
Uses a Jupitor type GPS head unit to receive the Sat"s signals.
Cheers 
Arie Schellaars    VK3DBF

--- On Thu, 5/3/09, Neville Michie <namichie at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Neville Michie <namichie at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS disciplined mechanical clocks
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts at febo.com>
Received: Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 8:35 AM


Hi Jim,
a "seconds Pendulum" has  frequency of 0.5Hz, and so your subwoofer  
would need 0.5 hz response if it is going to shake walls.
Being a purist I must point out that at 0.5 Hz the sound energy would  
be in the form of pressure which is very weakly coupled to a pendulum.
The only coupling would be buoyancy, and that would need a 1Hz signal  
to give two reductions in apparent gravity per cycle.

Allied to this discussion is the Loomis effect, discovered by the  
American millionaire who had three Shortt clocks running in his  
basement.
They synchronised unless aligned at 120 degrees to each other. I  
wonder weather they were shaking the bedrock, or maybe the gravitational
attraction between the 10 kg pendulums may have synchronised them.  
(See "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant) He qualified as the first time nut.

cheers, Neville Michie


On 05/03/2009, at 5:22 PM, Jim Palfreyman wrote:

> So if I set my GPS locked 3325B to 1Hz (sine wave) and put that  
> into my M&K
> subwoofer and sat that next to my pendulum clock (with its ~1m long  
> Reifler
> pendulum) it should keep perfect time.
>
> Beauty!
>
>
>
> 2009/3/5 Tom Van Baak <tvb at leapsecond.com>
>
>>> mechanical, more of a hybrid, but I don't know how you'd  
>>> discipline a
>>> mechanical clock with a system that had to drive in parallel with  
>>> the
>> escape
>>> mechanism, the two would fight each other.
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Precision pendulum clocks, when mounted near each other,
>> have been known to eventually get into phase lock. So one
>> idea is to add a GPS 1PPS driven bass speaker or solenoid
>> or some sort of thumping contraption. Perhaps eventually the
>> pendulum clock would lock to the vibrations on the the wall.
>>
>> /tvb
>>
>>
>>
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