[time-nuts] Loran C sounds

Sykes, Stephan ssykes at harris.com
Fri Feb 12 11:07:19 UTC 2010

What is going to happen if GPS has a problem, or if the US puts SA back
on?  Now the only backup for navigation is a sextant.  

Steve KD2OM 

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Hawkins
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 00:04
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran C sounds

Two things:

1. The Solar Dynamics Observatory launched this morning, on a mission to
examine the fields and mass ejections that threaten satellites and
power grids. They are delighted to be putting instruments in place
after a prolonged quiet period so they can watch activity ramp up.

The people who shut down non-satellite methods won't be in office at
peak activity.

2. Its all about $$$$$$ because they are so easy to count. Decisions
on dollars don't require any technical background. People with empathy
lose out to people who are focused on the dollars. (You folks with
other currencies can substitute them for declining dollars. The
is the same.) Should I automate or retain jobs? Let's see, which costs
per year? In dollars, that is, not human misery.

Albert J. Bernstein wrote "Dinosaur Brains: Dealing with All Those
People at Work" to explain how the most primitive brain of the three in
skulls sometimes / often gets the upper hand. Fatally attracted to
fatty deposits? Blame your dino brain and try to rein it in. Trying to
with somebody shouting at you? You're watching a dino brain take over.
try to explain, the dino can't hear you unless what you say sounds

Dealing with someone who is playing dominance games? Say hello to an
lizard and forget any attempt to reason with the person. Who plays
games? Almost any politician you care to name.

So, no, don't think anything good is gonna happen. There's a reason why
engineers are familiar with not having resources to do it right the

Darn, the soap box broke.

Bill Hawkins

-----Original Message-----
From: paul swed
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:07 PM

Sure they might take a check for $36M or so.
As they have said without the yanks, its broke. So they will shut down
before Oct.
Its all about $$$$$$

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