[time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 70, Issue 31

Stanley Reynolds stanley_reynolds at yahoo.com
Thu May 13 12:12:19 UTC 2010


Like other environmental effects this external impulse would have to have a precise period to move a set of non-synced clocks toward sync otherwise it is just noise. If the impulse is strong then it becomes the clock, or if it is precise again it is the clock, otherwise it is noise the clock maker would like to remove. This reminds me of chaos theory clocks tend toward random periods.

Stanley



----- Original Message ----
From: Alan Melia <alan.melia at btinternet.com>
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Nice reference thanks for those Stanley...interesting, thought provoking
reading! Moving apart and possibly changining the relative positions of the
plane of the swing too to test the coupling.  There are ways of measuring
this if you have the time :-)) My thought was that even an uncoupled set
might move closer together if all subject to the same external "impulse"?
Alan
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That would not explain the lessing of the effect as the clocks are moved
father from each other or arranged as sides of a triangle. Maybe gravity
between the pendulums or more likely vibrations.


http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Synchronization

http://www.siam.org/pdf/news/481.pdf

http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/Coupled%20Pendulums%20Quadrature%20and%20Clocks%20by%20John%20Haine.pdf

http://www.ralph-abraham.org/articles/MS%2344.Resonance/ms44.pdf

Stanley


----- Original Message ----
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Is it possible that mechanical (pendulum) clocks could couple not due to
energy transfer between the clocks but external mechanical events such as
seismic events of a very low level ?? or even gravitational or lunar
gravitational effects.?? Maybe the same for water clocks ??

Alan G3NYK

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From: "Christopher Hoover" <ch at murgatroid.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:00 AM
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> On 5/12/2010 10:41 AM, Jim Lux wrote:
> > It never occurred to me that they might couple, although almost every
> > other mechanical clock does.
> >
> > What would the mechanism be?
> >
>
> Perhaps if all of them run off the same reservoir ....
>
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