[time-nuts] CS reservoir depletion

J. Forster jfor at quik.com
Thu Jan 13 20:37:31 UTC 2011

I'm not so sure handling the Cs is all that different from handling Na.
You basically distill it in glass from where you break the vial to where
it wants to ultimately be, under high vacuum.  Actually, moving Rb is
essentially the same too.

I'd imagine building a Cs unit might be a bit easier than an H MASER, but
not by much. Certainly a Rb is easier.



> On 13/01/11 17:24, J. Forster wrote:
>> As I said last go-round, I think the chances of rebuilding an HP Cs tube
>> are slim to none.
>> BUT, if you were really dedicated, I think you could build up the
>> physics
>> package from pretty much standard stuff, like the Kimball Physics gun
>> parts and Conflat SS vacuum hardware, etc.  Check Duniway.
>> I'd start by reviewing the old, academic papers. Much of the electronics
>> can be bought on eBay as instruments now.
>> Yes, it'd be refrigerator size, but it is do-able, IMO.
> Many of the pieces of a physical package can either be found off the
> shelf (ionizer/masspectrometer) or at least be hammered up fairly easily
> (microwave link) even if performance is far optimum. The cesium oven
> should also be fairly buildable. The C-field coil could certainly be
> built with some care. My-metal shields may take some effort. Outer
> shield is a challenge for vacuum performance and there is such a thing
> as high-vacuum nuts. Similarly the ionpump is off the shelf. The piece
> that I would not expect to be easy to buy or build is the A and B
> magnets which deflect wrong state atoms. Also, handle Cesium and
> breaking the Cesium ampule may be a bit of a challenge to get right.
> There is certainly be a bit of challenges to get something which works.
> Being able to get good performance would take many many years of
> experimentation and learning. The HP/Symmetricom efforts spans from the
> 60thies. Many steps of improvement, of which only some is found in
> papers and patents. But they have left such traces too. There are many
> practical solutions which can be learned from the archives.
> The electronics could either be to reuse a HP5061 or whateer is
> available, but most of it should not be all that hard depending on
> background.
> It would be a hell of a project. Just like building a H-maser.
> In comparision a Rubidium is much easier.
> Cheers,
> Magnus
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