[time-nuts] pulling oscillators

Don Latham djl at montana.com
Sat Mar 5 19:52:16 UTC 2011


The crystal oscillators are reference oscillators in 2 meter ham radios. I
wanted to make the least perturbation in the radio, hence pulling instead
of simply introducing the correct reference. I will be using a reference
of the nominal frequency the radio should have, so really should not need
to pull more than a few ppm if that? also not woried about the phase
noise, either. Will derive the driving signal from my gps 10 mhz or from
one of my FEI Rb devices. I need the accurate frequencies, or at least I
think I do, because the 2 meter radio will drive a transverter to 2.4 GHz
moonbounce.
Sorry about not knowing how far I need to pull, or the specs of what's
there. I suspect there has been some drift since the radio was made.
Putting in a vcxo or varactor simply puts off the problem, as then I have
to monitor <that> frequency and control it. I could cobble in a little
tuning cap, but still would be left with a pretty temp sensitive
reference.
Hope the question is clearer, and thanks to all who replied!
Don

Adrian
> Don,
>
> if you have a reference oscillator of the right frequency, what's the
> the purpose of trying to pull a CMOS oscillator to the same frequency,
> rather than just using the reference frequency?
> Please be more specific on whant your requirements are.
>
> Adrian
>
> Don Latham schrieb:
>> Hello all:
>> I've developed a need for pulling crystal oscillators built in to pll
>> circuits. These are cmos, and have the common style oscillator circuit
>> built in. The crystal is across an inverter in the chip, and there is a
>> small cap between each end of the crystal and ground.
>> The chips are pll's in radio transceivers, early at that.
>> I could carefully remove the crystals and caps, simply driving the
>> non-inverting input on the chip with the reference, but I would rather
>> simply tack on a very small cap and "pull" the crystal oscillator with
>> an
>> external reference signal of the right frequency.
>> Anyone out there tried this?
>> Thanks
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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