[time-nuts] Chinese Scopes (was: Re: LORAN-C at MIT)

[J. Forster]

That's called 'progress'. A full employment pretext for programmers. eBay
is worse. They just won't leave it alone.

If it works, don't 'fix' it!!

YMMV,

-John

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> Must be the reason behind the puzzling menus of Microsoft Office 2007 and
> up...
>
> Everything requires one or two more clicks than the 2003 vintage.
>
> Didier KO4BB
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott McGrath <scmcgrath at gmail.com>
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> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:33:36
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> frequencymeasurement<time-nuts at febo.com>
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> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Chinese Scopes (was: Re:  LORAN-C at MIT)
>
> Chinese scopes and menus
>
> In modern asian culture it's a highly valued skill to be able to memorize
> menu selections which are deeply nested And many asian designs actually
> increase the number of menus to cater to this
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:03 AM, "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com> wrote:
>
>> I often smile secretly at those who tout the latest asian stuff. It may
>> be
>> small, light, and look like a 'puter, but it doesn't compare for bench
>> use
>> to a Tek 7000 series similar vintage portables.
>>
>> Going through layer after layer of ever more obtuse menus is just not
>> 'user friendly' to me. Maybe it is to the designers, because they are
>> used
>> to a 10,000+ character alphabet?
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ========
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:46:27AM +0200, Attila Kinali wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sadly, the last scope I bought was a Chinese Rigol. (I do have "real"
>>>>> scopes too.) It is getting to the point where Rigol and Instek will
>>>> make
>>>>> buying boat anchors a thing of the past.
>>>>
>>>> What's the quality of those chinese scopes?
>>>
>>> I never had the opportunity to use good old Tek, HP or Fluke
>>> instruments,
>>> because I never had access to them, so when I begun to buy instruments
>>> for
>>> myself, I was completely unbiased and I looked to the price and spec
>>> sheets
>>> more than the maker.
>>>
>>> To start, I wanted to replace my very very old (but very good) analog
>>> multimeter, so I bought an handheld Metex digital multimer. I choose
>>> what
>>> was
>>> then their top item with thermocouple and PC connectivity.
>>> I had soon to give it away for free to a friend (who needed a wire
>>> continuity
>>> beeper) and I bought a Fluke 177. It costed me even more, it has not PC
>>> connectivity and thermocouple, but the Metex was completely unuseable
>>> while the
>>> Fluke is very good.
>>>
>>> Then it was the time for a scope, a function generator and a lab power
>>> supply.
>>> I bought all the three from Instek. The scope was the GDS-820S and as
>>> soon
>>> as I
>>> had the opportunity, I sold it and bought an Agilent DSO3062A. This
>>> Agilent too
>>> is very entry-level, the plastic case cracks easily, in general the
>>> quality is
>>> not near the level the other Agilent instruments I late bought (like
>>> the
>>> 34401A) but the Instek was unuseable while the Agilent is ok.
>>> (I still own the function generator and the power supply: being not
>>> precision
>>> items they are useable... but for precision I bought an used Wavetek
>>> generator)
>>>
>>> To sum it up, my experience is that good instruments are unvaluable,
>>> for
>>> work
>>> as well for hobby.... (for hobby it's even more important, because it's
>>> supposed
>>> you should enjoy doing it!)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andrea Baldoni
>>>
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