[time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

paul swed paulswedb at gmail.com
Thu Dec 6 16:58:30 UTC 2012

Interesting Arthur. I don't think I had a clue you were selling them and
would have paid the difference of what I actually picked one up for. Though
mine was clean and I have not a complaint in the world. Like you I watched
things go up and they were very controlled day by day. At the time it
seemed that all of the units were out of China and I really felt like it
was quite the gamble. It paid off but I was worried about it.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Arthur Dent <golgarfrincham at yahoo.com>wrote:

> >On Mon, Dec 4, paul swed wrote:
> >Yes sir $139. But boy I have not seen cheap tbolts in  bit. As I recall
> >$260 these days?
> >
> >On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Bob Camp <lists at rtty.us> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> The gotcha is that you go from paying surplus prices to paying new
> prices.
> >> New price to new price, they certainly are cheaper. Not so easy to beat
> a
> >> $100 TBolt on price (if you can find one).
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++
> Comments like these make me smile because they're kind of like the ads you
> used to see for buying $50 jeeps from DOD. Yes, someone at some time in the
> distant past had probably bought one jeep for $50 but these ads continued
> for
> decades like urban legends and a lot of people believed them. As to Tbolt
> prices,
> over the past year or so I had sold close to 200 Tbolts on the popular
> auction site
> at $170 each so I have a pretty good idea what the market was like during
> that time.
> All the Tbolts I had were removed from the original equipment and tested
> by me so
> all the units I sold were clean and worked exactly as they were intended
> to work.
> If you watched the price of all the Chinese dealers over this same period
> last year
> they all went up in unison, first to $189, then to $260 as Paul mentioned
> above.
> What you would have noticed if you checked the actual units sold is that
> they were
> not selling any at those prices but buyers were getting their Tbolts from
> me instead.
> I suspect that all the Chinese dealers are basically store front resellers
> for some
> distributor who set the price. As others on this list had commented, the
> condition
> of some of the electronic parts from China indicate that these parts like
> Tbolts and
> OXCOs were removed at some scrapyard by someone who didn't know or care
> what they were but was only interested in throughput and the parts were
> thrown into
> bins for later distribution and sale. Check the photos of bent and/or
> rusted OXCOs
> for listings 170950828042, 170558942064, and 300579197899 to see what I
> mean.
> -Arthur
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