[time-nuts] ebay warning

EWKehren at aol.com EWKehren at aol.com
Sun Feb 26 22:53:36 UTC 2012

My beef is that if you advertise NEW it should be NEW. I caught him once  
before and ebay made him change the listing. This time he had two listings 
one  new and one used. I checked with him and paid extra for NEW and got the 
most  banged up unit ever. All from the same stack. Finally got him to agree 
to pay  for return shipping he wanted it back and I can show you 
correspondence where he  states he can sell it for $ 60+ and when I gave a negative 
review he refused to  pay unless I give him a 5 star+. Extortion look forward 
what ebay will say. All  I can say is stay away from ggg*fitting, not like 
some of the other ones. Others  cooperate according to some list members, 
Bert Kehren
In a message dated 2/26/2012 5:22:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org writes:

Hi Bert  and all,

Very few occasions items like we talk about is really  pristine, I expect 
it to be used and only try to judge about how much  milage it has. Most 
of the dumpster diver level re-circulation folks has  low knowledge, and 
some excel and actually has a clue, but if only the  pictures is their 
own and show some reasonable level of degradation and  then I judge if I 
think there is a fair price or not for what roughly is  being provided.

So far I have not been scammed very hard. Most of the  stuff has been 
within the expected level, but all that comes from makeing  a decision of 
what to expect and what price is fair for that  expectation.


On 02/26/2012 05:33 PM,  EWKehren at aol.com wrote:
> Pete
> Thanks for the link. Now it  explains where they come from and what
> condition they are in. Again I  like to warn against ggg*fitting that 
sell Morion
> as NEW and did sell  FE 5680A as NEW. I did mail my very used sold as NEW
> back to them so  someone will get it if you continue to buy from them. 
> agreed to  reimburse me for shipping but as you see below now threaten me 
if I
>  do  not give them a positive review.
>   Look at shipping  cost some of it is off the top! It is time to take a
> breather and we  will se a drop in prices. There is a limited market and 
we are
> at  least 50%
> "We in the description, indicate the is  used.
> We have to make the best  possible treatment, a full refund  to you, and 
> for shipping costs  $13.17
> If you don't  change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't pay $13.17  to
>  you!!
> To trouble you, I'm so sorry!"
> I will not change  my feedback ggg are crooks and they know it. Be
> carefully, there are  other choices.
> Bert  Kehren
> In a message dated  2/26/2012 1:42:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> bell.peter at gmail.com  writes:
> I  suspect a lot of the ebay sellers are buying  stuff from Taobao and
> just  reselling it.  For example, this  appears to be the original
> source of  the FE-5680As which were  supplied with the OCXO and socket
> (although he  seems to have run  out of OCXOs  now)
> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12204039399  - the price  is
> interesting, too - 90 RMB (about $15). Of course,  they generally  won't
> ship to addresses outside  China.
> The bit of his website  dealing with oscillators  is interesting, too
> (in Chinese, but lots of  photos) - I suspect  some of the other stuff
> being sold on ebay is being  sourced  from  him:
> http://www.dz98.com/an.htm
>  Regards,
> Pete   Bell
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