[time-nuts] Power Supply Noise Affects Thunderbolt 1 PPS

gary lists at lazygranch.com
Tue Feb 28 15:57:58 UTC 2012

 From the 1580 data sheet.
"To achieve this dropout, a second low current input voltage 1V greater 
than the output voltage, is required."

Like I said, ship it with a battery. ;-)

Then the "normal" part can have a dropout of 1.4V. You can't fight the 
physics of the topology. For a NPN pass device, you need a Vbe of a NPN 
and at the very least a PNP Vcesat. That is not low dropout, especially 
at cold.

On 2/28/2012 7:30 AM, David wrote:
> The Linear Technology LT3070 (150mV @ 5A) , LT3071, LT1580 , and
> LT1581 (700 mV @ 10A) are examples:
> http://www.linear.com/product/LT1580
> For comparison:
> http://www.linear.com/product/LT1584
> The LT1580 (0.8V @ 7A) has the same topology as the LT1584 (1.5V @ 7A)
> except everything but the pass NPN is powered from a bias supply
> brought out to a separate pin.  If the bias supply is connected to the
> input supply, then it duplicates the dropout characteristics of the
> LT1584.
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:58:33 -0800, gary<lists at lazygranch.com>  wrote:
>> I hate to be argumentative, but you can't be low drop out and use an
>> emitter follower. Draw the circuit and convince yourself. You would need
>> a high side driver scheme to drive the base/gate, and that require some
>> sort of boost converter. It can be done on switchmode chips, but not in
>> a linear circuit. Well unless you ship it with a battery.
>> On 2/27/2012 9:51 PM, David wrote:
>>> The highest performance low dropout regulators I have seen use
>>> emitter/source followers with a low current bias supply.
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