[time-nuts] Thunderbolt Fan mounting

Don Latham djl at montana.com
Thu Jul 12 18:12:42 UTC 2012


fan designed for variable speed plus finned heatsink plus temp sensor
(sometimes) in a neat package from any old computer cpu cooler...
Don

WarrenS
> Mark
>
> Although Lady Heather's temperature controller can hold the temp at the
> TBolt's sensor constant to delta 0.000x deg over 72 hrs,
> this does not hold the temperature at the oscillator close enough to
> maintain an exact constant frequency because the TBolt's sensor location
> is not at the OCXO.
> The change of the Oscillator's open loop freq vs. room temp can be seen
> when the room temp is also plotted and compared to the DAC voltage in an
> extended length LH plot.
>
> What Lady Heater does is plenty good enough for most, but if you want to
> be even more nuts (and who wouldn't),
> there are still further improvements possible that can eliminate all of
> the TBolt's OCXO sensitivity to small room temperature changes.
>
> 1) One way to improve LH's temp control, which is not very practical and
> not recommended, is to reposition the TB's temp sensor.  :(
>
> 2) There are several ways that Lady Heather could be modified, to change
> the control loop set point a little as a function of room temp.
>
> 3) The simple mechanical way that I use to minimize any remaining
> variation due to room temperature changes when using LH's temperature
> control loop
>  is to adjust the position the LH controlled fan to compensate for the
> difference between the TB's sensor and it's oscillator.
>
> Shown in the attachment,
> I placed the stock Tbolt in a tight fitting foam lined small box where
> only the top case of the TBolt's is exposed.
> This minimizes temperature gradients on the case and causes the TB's
> temperature to rise a safe amount.
> I use a small 12v, 1W fan loosely mounted to the top to a 1/4 inch sheet
> of aluminum plate that sits on top of the TBolt.
> For course adjustment, I change the position of the aluminum plate on
> the TB.
> For fine adjustment, I change the location of the fan a little so that
> it is blowing air at a different spot on the plate.
>
> Not shown in the attachment, is a small insulator / deflector that only
> allows fan air to blow on the aluminum plate, not on the TBolt's exposed
> upper case.
> This insulator and the foam forces most all of TBolt cooling to go thru
> the 1/4 inch aluminum heat sink plate.
> I can then adjust the fan position so that there is no visible effect on
> the TBolt's OCXO due to small daily room temperature changes.
>
> The power supply I'm using is stable enough that I have not seen any
> TBolt changes when the PS is heated with a hair dryer or the line
> voltage is changed by large amounts with a variac.
>
> ws
>
> **********************
>
> Mark posted:
> I tried putting a Tbolt in a small (six-pack sized) Coleman cooler.
> The temperature rose above the alarm temperature...  it does not take
> much insulation to cause problems.
>
> Lady Heather's built in temperature PID controller works very well.
> When properly set it up,  short term variations can be well under 20
> millidegrees.   Long term RMS temperature error can be a few
> microdegrees or less.   Attached is a screen dump showing a 0
> microdegree RMS temp error over 72 hours!
>
> Besides the TT command to set the desired setpoint temperature,  there
> are some built in PID parameter commands (KW sets a slow pid,    KM sets
> a fast pid,  KA attempts a PID autotune...  you can also tweak the
> various PID parameters individually...  see the routine edit_pid_value()
> in heathui.cpp for some idea of the available parameters).
>
> For best performance,  it helps to have the power supply in the
> temperature controlled box.  This will minimize the effects of
> temperature variation on the supply,  which can be a third of the
> overall system temperature sensitivity.   It is also a good idea to not
> have the box so well sealed that the unit overheats if the
> computer/PID/fan shuts down.  You probably don't want a flammable box in
> case your cheapo Chinese power supply bursts into flame.
>
> For best operation of a new Tbolt,  you should first run the 48 hour
> precision survey,  then execute the &a auto-tune command.  Autotune sets
> the oscillator parameters,  elevation mask,  and signal level mask to
> time-nutty values.  Before running &a,  first set the elevation mask to
> a low value and collect data for a couple of hours.   This lets the
> program find the satellite elevation angle where the signal starts to
> degrade.
>
> Note that it can take several weeks for an old, unused oscillator to
> fully stabilize and age in.
>
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Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL
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