[time-nuts] TimePod 5330A announcement/info (was TimePod, cross-correlation fun and measurements)

John Miles jmiles at pop.net
Mon Jun 18 12:31:45 UTC 2012


> Hi John,
> 
> Congratulations on a good design.

Thanks!

> Why the 78 MHz sample frequency ?

Long story: it's mostly arbitrary, but at least with some ADCs, it's
beneficial to spur performance if the first few dozen harmonics of the ADC
clock rate and the most commonly-used test frequencies don't approach each
other too closely.  In this case I wanted to ensure good SFDR when measuring
5 and 10 MHz signals, so I went with a clock frequency that has no harmonics
within 100 kHz of any harmonics of 5 MHz until 3.2 GHz.  At that point, the
640th harmonic of 5 MHz is 50 kHz away from the 41st harmonic of 78.050 MHz.


The resulting 50 kHz spur is somewhat dependent on input levels, but it's
rarely worse than -130 dBc, well below the 5330A's spec limit of -100 dBc.
Being in a predictable location far from the carrier, it could be removed in
software, although I don't currently do that.  

There is a patent by Symmetricom (US 7,227,346) that discusses the problem
in more detail.  Their approach in the TSC 5120A was to use a pair of ADCs
with inputs in quadrature at each phase detector, for a total of eight.
This technique doesn't seem to be needed with the LTC2216s I used.  They're
well-behaved even near input frequencies deliberately chosen to cause
trouble, like 7.805 MHz.

-- john





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