[time-nuts] Recommended parameters for Timelab ADEV analysis

John Miles jmiles at pop.net
Thu Nov 15 02:03:06 UTC 2012


Hi, Edgardo --

Your counter's noise near t=1s will dominate most measurements you're likely
to make, so there's nothing to be gained by acquiring data at even faster
rates.  This will probably be true out to at least 10-100 seconds or even
longer, depending on what you're measuring.  

For best ADEV fidelity you'd want to use TI measurements rather than
frequency measurements, but frequency measurements are obviously much easier
to set up.  They can give you a good overall idea of what's going on. 

-- john
Miles Design LLC

> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-
> bounces at febo.com] On Behalf Of Edgardo Molina
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:44 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: [time-nuts] Recommended parameters for Timelab ADEV analysis
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> Now that I have setup TimeLab along with the Prologix GPIB to USB adapter
> and the HP-53132A frecuency counter, I am starting to get some data from
> my frequency standards. Still I think I have a long way to go in front of
me.
> 
> One of the main concerns that cross my mind at this point are:
> 
> a. What is the recommended sampling duration to consider for Quartz,
> Rubidium  and other types of oscillators?
> b. What are the recommended sampling intervals for the above mentioned
> oscillator types?
> c. I am using a 10 MHz Rb FE-5806A frequency standard as an external
> reference for the HP-53132A.
> d. I am connecting my DUT at the frequency counter channel 1
> e. I am setting Timelab for Data Type = Frequency
> f. My graphs somehow have the same geometry of classical ADEV examples,
> I can differentiate the ADEV noise types quite easily.
> g. Should I use sub-second sampling intervals for my graphs to start
closer to
> the vertical axis of the graph? Or should I use a conservative 1s sampling
> rate?
> 
> With the previous questions I am looking for consistency in my ADEV
> studies.. Are there any typical ADEV conditions to be considered when
> analysing this way?
> Am I missing something? My apologies to everybody if I am missing
> something or doing it the wrong way. In the end I want to learn more than
> anything else.
> 
> Your kind comments are welcome. Thank you.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
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