[time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions

Sun Oct 14 16:33:47 UTC 2012

Dear Bob,

I agree. I have been playing around with two TBolts for my thesis work and they are just great. HP as some circles have stated, are plug and forget GPSDOs. Still I love the looks, construction and the fact that they match with the rest of the HP equipment here in the lab. 

As I continue working on both the HP and the TBolt units, I will try to share my experiences, despite they will not be up to the level some folks here have achieved. I am moving in small steps but gaining experience and learning in the process. Always with a good attitude and looking to have some fun during the process. 

Thank you!

Edgardo Molina
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On Oct 14, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Bob Camp <lists at rtty.us> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I've been using Ulrich's software on my 3805's as well. 
> 
> Trimble and HP took different approaches on their GPSDO's. Trimble lets you get into things and fiddle around. HP is much more a black box. I have never seen anything that lets you "fiddle' with one of the HP units. Things like loop gain, time constant, DAC settings that are configurable on the Trimble are not accessible on the HP. HP only lets you do the satellite mask and re-survey sort of stuff. You can monitor status, you just can't do much about it...
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:23 AM, John Ackermann N8UR <jra at febo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On the unit I bought from fluke.l, with a "Samsung" label, there are two serial ports.  The bottom one is the control port and is definitely RS-232.  The top port has only three wires (TXD, RXD, SG) and I think is used for some sort of monitoring.
>> 
>> I've been using Ulrich's "z38xx" software to monitor it with good success.
>> 
>> John
>> ----
>> 
>> Edgardo Molina said the following on 10/13/2012 10:18 PM:
>>> Dear Group,
>>> 
>>> Good evening. I bought two HP Z3805A units a few weeks ago. They were bare units without antenna or power supply. After struggling to find a suitable 24V 3A noise free power supply for each of them, I mounted a couple of Symmetricom antennas and just fired them up.
>>> 
>>> After around 25 minutes, the GPS Lock light lighted up. As the manual for this particular model is unobtainable in several searches through the Internet, I found that the readily available manual for the Z3801A would cover much of the Z3905A operation. I also got a software for monitoring the operation from BD Systems Inc. In Colorado. Now that I am sure both are operating and locked only by looking at the front panel lights, I would like to ask a couple of questions regarding their communication to the PC.
>>> 
>>> 1. Is the DB-25 serial port carrying RS-232 signals? I see the port of the Z380A1 is different: RS-422.
>>> 2. If the port is plain RS-232 is it possible to use a Serial to USB adapter? I have heard about the inconsistencies that such an adapter could cause when used with a TBolt. Should I assume this is the same case with the Z3805A?
>>> 3. There was once a project for building a TBolt state monitor on a 2 line LCD screen. I own three of those monitors and they are just great.  Is there an equivalent for these HP GPS units?
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions for the operation of these units and your ever expert and kind advise is always welcome. You all have a nice weekend!
>>> 
>>> Kindest regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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