[time-nuts] Why the fuss?

[J. Forster]

If you are under the impression living in an older, built up area will be
a defense against those with a Martha Stewart fetish, you are wrong.

-John

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>
>
> Well, that's what I love about the SF bay area- lots of old neighborhoods
> that didn't have all these silly restrictions in place when they were
> built.  There are the "usual" CC&Rs, like I can raise chickens, but not
> cows, but it doesn't mandate what three colors you can paint your house,
> or the window coverings you can have or how long you can park your car in
> the driveway.  Yes, things can change, but at least it's not in place in
> the beginning- and we can monitor implementation of any changes, at least
> in Palo Alto and Sunnyvale (where we have neighborhood groups that monitor
> such things, specifically because we like the status quo).
>
>
>
> I'm sure some or all of the newer developments do have silly restrictions,
> I just would never buy into one.
>
>
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
> <time-nuts at febo.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:47:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss?
>
> Earth to Dave:
>
> Sometimes laws and regulations change years after you buy a piece of
> property or do something perfectly legal.
>
> Nobody is safe whenever (Congress, Agency, State Legislature, Town
> Council, governing body, or whatever) is in session.
>
> YMMV,
>
> -John
>
> ===========
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> These are amoung other reasons why I will never buy a house in a
>> development or with a HOA.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>> From: "Bob Camp" <lists at rtty.us>
>> To: jfor at quikus.com, "Discussion of precise time and frequency
>> measurement" <time-nuts at febo.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:36:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss?
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> .... and indeed many of the "likely hiding places" are also on the list
>> of
>> things you are not supposed to do.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
>> Behalf Of J. Forster
>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:20 PM
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss?
>>
>> Vent pipes are not usually 20-30 feet tall.
>>
>> -John
>>
>> =============
>>
>>
>>> Which for all intents and purposes means "nothing that looks like an
>>> antenna
>>> to John Q. Public". What if your GPS antenna looked like a vent pipe?
>>> or
>>> a
>>> Bird House? It may be difficult to hide a decent HF antenna, But, a 1.5
>>> GHz
>>> antenna can be virtually invisible.
>>> Dale NV8U
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bob Camp
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:02 PM
>>> To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss?
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Right here in PA for one. You essentially can not buy a new house
>>> without
>>> there being various conditions written into the title. One universal
>>> one
>>> is
>>> "no antennas". The only exception is for one 19" sat dish for TV, since
>>> that's a federal mandate.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
>>> Behalf Of brent evers
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:57 AM
>>> To: jfor at quikus.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency
>>> measurement
>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss?
>>>
>>> Zoning, Legal?
>>>
>>> Where?
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:41 AM, J. Forster <jfor at quikus.com> wrote:
>>>> Because:
>>>>
>>>> LORAN-C is gone.
>>>>
>>>> Not all can use GPS because of siting, horizon, zoning, legal, and
>>>> other
>>>> issues. Not everyone can erect antenna towers.
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing else, except perhaps WWV or CHU on HF.
>>>>
>>>> -John
>>>>
>>>> ==================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I cannot think of a time-nuts WWVB reference requirement
>>>>> that cannot be better satisfied with a GPSDO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will  NIST publish a public domain reference circuit?
>>>>> That would allay patent concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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