[time-nuts] de Witte's Experiment

[iovane at inwind.it]

I would add that one could run the experiment over a full year.
Antonio I8IOV

I wrote:
>
>Looking at fig. 4 at
>http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0608/0608205v1.pdf
>I still doubt that the De Witte results would be so simply dismissed.
>The experiment started on early June and ended on late November, and the 
>temperature cycle over such a period is not a ramp, still having to cross 
the 
>warmest months before starting to drop.
>The De Witte cable was buried, but how deep is not mentioned.
>I would see the experiment repeated.
>Antonio I8IOV
>
>tvb wrote:
>
>>Hi Steven,
>>
>>You can contact me off-line about this if you want more information.
>>
>>Being someone with plenty of cesium clocks I looked into his claims in the 
>late 90's. His cables and electronics were not at all temperature 
compensated. 
>It's a simple mistake we all make at one point or another in our time-nuts 
>career.
>>
>>Once you deal with tempco correctly no one has problems like he saw, 
whether 
>your clocks are as old as the one he used in 1991 or modern ones that are 
ten 
>to a thousand times more accurate.
>>
>>Note he ran his experiment for 178 days. If you run a ground temperature 
>experiment for a full year (or years) you get complete temperature cycles; 
if 
>you happen to pick only half a year, starting early summer as he did, you get 
a 
>slow ramp.
>>
>>When you combine diurnal changes (which he saw) with half-year ramps (which 
>he mis-interpreted) you get a solar-sidereal effect that looks extra-
>terrestrial. Roland was a little too eager to prove aether exists and 
textbooks 
>were wrong. Unfortunately he died shortly before I could email him about his 
>methods and raw data. That was, what, 15 years ago.
>>
>>/tvb
>>www.LeapSecond.com
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Steven Kluck" <skluck_98 at yahoo.com>
>>To: "Discussion precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts at febo.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:25 AM
>>Subject: [time-nuts] de Witte's Experiment
>>
>>
>>I am new to this group, and my main interest is time keeping/ time signal 
>reception, but all of this frequency talk is catching my interest.
>>
>>If
>> I had a couple of extra cesium frequency references, I would want to 
>>try Roland de Witte's experiment. Simple and fascinating! Position one
>> clock about 1500 meters to the east of the other, set up a long 
>>(temperature controlled) coax cable between them, and compare phase from
>> the 10MHz outputs as the earth turns. The results were enough to make 
>>de Witte a fairly unpopular gentleman until his death. --Steven Kluck
>>
>>
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