[time-nuts] HP53132A's LSD question

Hui Zhang ba6it at 163.com
Sat Aug 31 21:15:37 EDT 2013


Sorry the screen shot's url is:


http://hkbbs.leowood.net:88/incomefiles/20139/19144671911.JPG




At 2013-09-01 09:05:56,"Hui Zhang" <ba6it at 163.com> wrote:
>Hello Bob:
>   That's good idea, I will try it at right time, in fact I collect about 300 data by measured a OCXO warm-up, and I made a excel chart to analize the relative of output digit and frequency. but it's very crudely because I use little time to do it. I don't have a high resolution DAC, I will find a way to do this test late. Thank you.
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>Here is a screen shot of my chart:
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>http://hkbbs.leowood.net:88/incomefiles/20139/18581578616.JPG
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>Hui Zhang
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>At 2013-09-01 07:51:24,"Bob Camp" <lists at rtty.us> wrote:
>>Hi
>>
>>One thing to look at -
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>>Take a large set of data and then sort it by reading. What you will find is that there are only certain numbers that come up. You can directly observe this with a good OCXO and a high resolution input to the EFC.
>>
>>Bob
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>>On Aug 31, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Hui Zhang <ba6it at 163.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear group:
>>> 
>>>  I found a strange thing about HP53132A’s output digit, I know the HP53132A is a universal counter that have 12 digits per second performance by read the manual. By use 10s gate time, I thought it will be 13 digits resolution. But I found it can output more digits reads by use GPIB or RS-232 way to collect datas. (This is simple way rather than use offset method). I use RS-232 cable to connected to my counter to observe the frequency of a OCXO, I got these output result ( a part of long sequence):
>>> 
>>> 9.999,967,286,098,0  MHz
>>> 9.999,981,814,726,9  MHz
>>> 9.999,991,573,702,0  MHz
>>> 9.999,997,482,253,0  MHz
>>> 9.999,999,945,685  MHz
>>> 10.000,000,472,030,4 MHz
>>> 10.000,000,460,991,3 MHz
>>> 10.000,000,352,570,9 MHz
>>> 10.000,000,254,108  MHz
>>> 10.000,000,183,759  MHz
>>> 10.000,000,136,842  MHz
>>> ..
>>> . (Omitted few lines)
>>> .
>>> 10.000,000,039,724  MHz
>>> 10.000,000,006,299  MHz
>>> 9.999,999,992,692  MHz
>>> 9.999,999,990,674  MHz
>>> 9.999,999,989,094  MHz
>>> 9.999,999,995,662  MHz
>>> 9.999,999,993,829  MHz
>>> 
>>> The question is in first four lines the reads is 14 digits, but in line 5, the digits reduce to 13 digits, and then, it’s became 15 digits in line 6(because over 10Mhz). After 3 lines, the reads reduce one digits again to became 14 digits(also over 10Mhz),  again after that few lines the frequency less that 10Mhz, it return to 13 digits like last few line. My question is what determines the HP53132A’s resolution? Why the output is variable digits even the had very close frequency? Any comment will be appreciate.
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>>> 
>>> Hui Zhang
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