[time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA

GandalfG8 at aol.com GandalfG8 at aol.com
Sun Jan 19 04:46:13 EST 2014


Whoops....will now write 1000 times..."I must pay more  attention":-)
 
I see you've already tried Tboltmon, so I presume there must be a bit  more 
to GPSTM monitor than is obvious from my quick glimpses before it  crashes.
 
Let's see if it will run under Win98......
 
Regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 
 
In a message dated 19/01/2014 01:12:45 GMT Standard Time,  
eb4apl at cembreros.jazztel.es writes:

Hi  Nigel,

The GPSTM tool (The program identifies itself as GPS Monitor v  1.5, to 
contribute to the entropy) also gives the same errors when  connected to 
my NTGS50AA, caused by bad programming that becomes crazy  when listening 
to a device that sends data at 9600 Bd, but in the rare  occasions when 
it syncs it works quite well and it has specific  Trimble-Nortel 
functions for the NTGS50AA and its cousins, like the  ability to handling 
the front panel lights.
Using the other GPS  monitor, the GPS Studio or even the Thunderbolt 
monitor is easy as they  seems to recognize the baud rate but they lack 
the special features noted  above.
I too prefer Lady Heather, it  is another kind (better) of  animal with a 
lot of other useful  things.

Regards,
Ignacio


On 18/01/2014 17:19,  GandalfG8 at aol.com wrote:
> Hi Ignacio
>   
> I'm  not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here gen.erates
>  exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much 
 the
> same format as Trimble's various other  offerings.
>   
> If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though,  version 1.6 was the latest but  
1.05
> is fine too, and that  doesn't connect there's likely to be a box  showing
> "IDLE" in the  bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for  that.
> If  you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item
>  "COM Port..."
> Left clicking that should bring up a small panel   for selecting Com  port
> and settings with a tick button for  Auto-detect settings.
> If you select that tick button and hit OK it  should run through all that
> standard options for baud rate and  protocol etc and should hopefully find
> whatever it's set to at the  moment.
>   
> I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA  that's been running with Lady 
Heather
>   and it very quickly  connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1.
>   
> Once  running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change 
settings
>  to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules  
but
> I haven't tried using it to make changes with the  NTGS50AA.
>   
> I have observed though that Lady  Heather can make other  unexpected 
changes
> at times.
> I've  been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT  
modules
>   recently, along with various different versions of  Trimble GPS 
software as
>   well as Lady Heather, and was  losing settings, apparently at random,
> until I realised that Lady H  was changing the format for output data 
such  as
> position and  altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and  
Trimble
>  Studio, for example wouldn't or couldn't display.
>   
>  It's easy enough to put them back, and once done they seem to survive
>  different versions of Trimble software as well as power cycling etc etc, 
  but
> when run with Lady H they reset again.
> Once aware of this  I've just accomodated it and haven't bothered to
> investigate further,  so it's quite possibly something in a config file 
that  could
> be  changed, but to be fair to Lady H, Trimbles own software isn't best
>  behaved at times either.
>   
> When running the  NTGS50AA with GPS monitor just now I noticed the 
position
> data is  greyed out, even though it still displays fine with Lady H, but 
I'm
>  a  bit more cautious about tempting to configure these with  Trimble's
> software and  much prefer running them with Lady H  anyway.
>   
> Regards
>   
>  Nigel
> GM8PZR
>   
>    
>   
>   
> In a message dated  18/01/2014 14:57:03 GMT Standard Time,
> eb4apl at cembreros.jazztel.es  writes:
>
> I have a  NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather  last version which
> incorporate  support for this board (Thanks  Mask Sims).
> When I bought the board I used  the Trimble utility  GPS Monitor (GPSTM
> Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it  up and in  the way knowing that it was
> previously  working in   Guatemala.  This program uses COM1 or 2 with a
> fixed  configuration of  19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it
>  seems that it changed the  parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using  an
> undocumented command and the  board stores this configuration  even if
> unpowered.  But now I can't  use  the Trimble  program because it refuses
> to connect, even it  crashes when  trying to connect at 19200 baud.
> Strangely it worked a  couple of  times when I was trying to command the
> leds in the panel but I   don't know how it managed to change the baud 
rate.
> Does anybody know  how to  change the configuration of the board serial
> port, maybe  an undocumented  command? I have the manual but I don't find
>  anything neither in the LH  documentation.
>
>  Regards,
> Ignacio
>
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