[time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock - XP Security

DaveH info at blackmountainforge.com
Sun Jul 13 01:03:28 EDT 2014

Hi John

Both applications are excellent choices. Malwarebytes also offers a great
free system scanner that will detect rooted malware (this is the stuff that
runs without your knowing it is there). It has to be run manually but it is

There is a lot going on behind the scenes besides web browsing and Java and
there are already some known exploits out in the field. Three at random:

In the Security Account Manager Remote (SAMR) protocol implementation in
Microsoft Windows XP,
The Remote Administration Protocol (RAP) implementation in the
LanmanWorkstation service in Microsoft Windows XP SP2 and SP3,
Multiple SQL injection vulnerabilities

These are just a few non-browser, non Java related issues for XP that have
cropped up since April of this year. These are things that no anti-virus
software will catch and since they do not target your browser or Java,
Malwarebytes will not catch either.

If you are running XP or earlier, get it off the internet now.  Here is a
good post from Microsoft:


The money quote:

  The challenge here is that you’ll never know,
  with any confidence, if the trusted computing
  base of the system can actually be trusted
  because attackers will be armed with public
  knowledge of zero day exploits in Windows XP
  that could enable them to compromise the 
  system and possibly run the code of their 
  choice. Furthermore, can the system’s APIs 
  that anti-virus software uses be trusted 
  under these circumstances? For some 
  customers, this level of confidence in the 
  integrity of their systems might be okay,
  but for most it won’t be acceptable.

Just as a heads up, I had a computer store in Seattle for 12 years and then
went to work for Microsoft doing software test lab management and security
for five years. I was on the ship team for Windows 2000.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com 
> [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On Behalf Of John Allen
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 20:19
> To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.
> Hi Max - try Dimension 4, www.thinkman.com/dimension4/  In a 
> large number of
> situations, XP's time sync does not work.
> Dimension 4 works.
> Dave - 
> With all due respect, there is no problem running Windows XP 
> provided that
> you have a good antivirus such as Avast www.avast.com
> (Free version).  The one additional protection that you need 
> is a program to
> block java and flash exploits.
> I only know of one, but it is excellent and the free version 
> is sufficient.
> The program is Malwarebytes anti-exploit, (MBAE)
> https://www.malwarebytes.org/antiexploit/
> I do agree that Linux and wine are an excellent solution for many.
> Regards, John 
> John Allen - PC Support Solutions www.pcsupportsolutions.com 
> PC On Site Service and Training - Computer HW/SW/Network debugging,
> installation and upgrades.  Dell Premier Partner sales.
> mailto:john at pcsupportsolutions.com  M: 508 361-6229
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com 
> [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
> Behalf Of DaveH
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:41 PM
> To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.
> Hi Max
> You do not want to have your XP box connected to the internet at all.
> This is not something that can be dealt with by any 
> anti-virus software you
> are running.
> There are parts of XP that can be exploited by an outside 
> hacker. Software
> can be installed and run on your system without your 
> knowledge and your
> system can be used for sending out spam and hosting illegal 
> files or data
> (people's credit card numbers, kiddie porn, etc...) This is 
> done so the
> vendor of these files is innocent if their own site is 
> raided.  They direct
> their customers to their network of zombie systems whenever a 
> sale is made.
> These dangers are real and happening now.
> Same thing with Win98 and anything earlier - disconnect them from the
> internet ___NOW___
> Get Linux and WINE and you will be secure.
> http://www.winehq.org/
> Dave
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com
> > [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On Behalf Of Max Robinson
> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 16:30
> > To: Time Nuts
> > Subject: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.
> > 
> > As some of you no doubt know microshaft has stopped 
> supporting windows 
> > XP.
> > As part of this they have ceased to correct windows XP 
> clocks.  This 
> > seams rather small of them as it can't possibly be any 
> inconvenience 
> > to them to continue to provide this service.
> > 
> > I have a program on my old 98 box which runs my weather station 
> > program.  On boot-up it contacts some place and corrects the system 
> > clock.
> >  I put it on
> > that machine so long ago I don't remember where I got it or who it 
> > contacts.
> > Does anyone know of a program I can download that will do 
> the same for 
> > my XP box.  I have no intention of upgrading until this box becomes 
> > absolutely un-operational.
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Max.  K 4 O DS.
> > 
> > Email: max at maxsmusicplace.com
> > 
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