[time-nuts] Second Units? KS-24361

Tom Van Baak (lab) tvb at leapsecond.com
Wed Nov 12 00:17:17 EST 2014


Paul,

Large plots are ok. They just get flagged by the server for approval. 

/tvb (i5s)

> On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:03 PM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I was thinking about snapping a pix. Though it has to be pretty small to
> get through time-nuts.
> Clearly my units still aging/adjusting a positive EFC rate.
> Regards
> Paul
> WB8TSL
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Bob Stewart <bob at evoria.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> I saw the phase of the 10MHz signal dip by about 60ns twice today as
>> compared to my homebrew GPSDO.  Given what I know about the design of my
>> unit, it's hard to believe it could follow the path the phase difference
>> took, but I suppose anything's possible.  Bob posted a graph showing the KS
>> moving about +/- 15ns recently.  I would certainly like to know if others
>> have seen this big of a phase movement.  It's been on about a week since
>> the last power-off to replace REF-1.
>> 
>> Bob - AE6RV
>>     From: paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com>
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>> time-nuts at febo.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Second Units? KS-24361
>> 
>> Bob
>> I will say that I am watching the noise of the pps ti in the z3811 program.
>> Granted its been running 30 some hours now. Virtually nothing in time. My
>> fingers are crossed it will clean up.
>> I do like the unit quite well. Have to thank Bert for even cluing me in.
>> So I do agree quite a nice unit.
>> Regards
>> Paul
>> WB8TSL
>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Bob Camp <kb8tq at n1k.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Here’s another way to look at the second unit - What would you pay (on an
>>> auction site) for the parts? Since there’s a warranty on the box, all
>> would
>>> be 100% good working parts with a solid guarantee and paid shipping back:
>>> 
>>> Lucent low EMI DC-DC converter “power brick” - $35 + $5 ship
>>> MTI 260 OCXO                                                  $35 + $15
>>> ship
>>> Nice board built up with GPSDO parts                  $  (gotta be at
>>> least 20) + ship
>>> Metal enclosure                                                        $
>>> (ok, it’s not that good, $5)
>>> Connectors, buffering, filtering                              $ something
>>> 
>>> Just the two big parts in the box likely would set you back more than the
>>> cost of the second unit delivered in the US. If you are headed into a
>> GPSDO
>>> project, the thing is a steal.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 1:41 AM, F. W. Bray <fwbray at mminternet.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, I intended to say that this question concerns the KS-24361
>> units.
>>> Forgot to put that in the subject line!
>>>> 
>>>>> I have one complete setup on the way. Any thoughts as to whether it is
>>> better to get a second complete set or just go for the unit that has the
>>> GPS in it? This would be as a spare or possibly actual use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fred
>>>>> 
>>>>> KE6CD
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