[time-nuts] LTE-Lite module

Neil Schroeder gigneil at gmail.com
Fri Oct 17 16:19:07 EDT 2014

How much would we guess that Wenzel blue-top would run you?

Relative to the low cost GPSDO,  my understanding is the Wenzel parts are
priced appropriately to their quality.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM, S. Jackson via time-nuts <
time-nuts at febo.com> wrote:

> Hello Jim,
> let me answer through Time Nuts as this may interest  other parties as
> well.
> Yes, using a fast flip flop to generate 10MHz out of  the 20MHz TCXO 3.0V
> CMOS output from the LTE-Lite module will preserve the phase  noise
> (actually
> improve it by up to 6dB due to the 20log(n/m) noise improvement)  and will
> not add any spurs if you use the clean 3.0V output from the LTE-Lite
> module
> or an external clean power supply (please note the LTE-Lite TCXO RF  output
> is 3.0V due to the internal 3.3V to 3.0V Low Noise regulator feeding the
> TCXO and buffer).
> Use fast logic such as 74AC74, 74FCT74, or the like.  We do exactly that on
> our ULN-2550 boards to generate 50MHz and 25MHz out of the  100MHz, and
> using a fast CMOS divider will result in additive phase noise  that will be
> below the crystal oscillator phase noise floor.
> That will result in significantly better phase noise and  much lower spurs
> than using the synthesized 10MHz output from the board, and one  74' chip
> can generate both 10MHz and 5MHz out of the 20MHz LTE-Lite output. This  is
> exactly what we would do here if we needed a clean 10MHz from the 20MHz
> LTE-Lite board.
> I believe you can order low-noise divide-by-2  blue-top boxes from Wenzel
> already packaged-up and connectorized as  well.
> Hope that helps,
> Said
> Hi Said
> I was one of those looking for 10Mhz but I just thought  again now that it
> might be just as well to divide the standard 20Mhz output by 2  using a FF.
> I think that would preserve all the desirable characteristics of the  20Mhz
> signal which I understand to just be square wave at CMOS 3.3v levels
> anyway. Is that correct?
> Thanks
> Jim
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