[time-nuts] LTE-Lite module
SAIDJACK at aol.com
SAIDJACK at aol.com
Fri Oct 17 21:54:37 EDT 2014
I used John Miles Timepod and associated application software, now
available from Microsemi, and highly recommended. I fed the output of the DFF
directly into the timepod (via a DC-block and 33 Ohms series resistor).
The reference was an HP 58503A GPSDO which limits the noise floor of the
measurement a bit.
In a message dated 10/17/2014 18:45:11 Pacific Daylight Time,
john at westmorelandengineering.com writes:
What tool(s) did you use to generate that data and output the graph?
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:10 PM, S. Jackson via time-nuts <
time-nuts at febo.com> wrote:
> Here is the resulting 10MHz phase noise plot from the 20MHz TCXO output:
> In a message dated 10/17/2014 11:32:49 Pacific Daylight Time,
> SAIDJACK at aol.com writes:
> Hello Jim,
> let me answer through Time Nuts as this may interest other parties as
> Yes, using a fast flip flop to generate 10MHz out of the 20MHz TCXO 3.0V
> CMOS output from the LTE-Lite module will preserve the phase noise
> improve it by up to 6dB due to the 20log(n/m) noise improvement) and
> not add any spurs if you use the clean 3.0V output from the LTE-Lite
> or an external clean power supply (please note the LTE-Lite TCXO RF
> is 3.0V due to the internal 3.3V to 3.0V Low Noise regulator feeding the
> TCXO and buffer).
> Use fast logic such as 74AC74, 74FCT74, or the like. We do exactly that
> our ULN-2550 boards to generate 50MHz and 25MHz out of the 100MHz, and
> using a fast CMOS divider will result in additive phase noise that will
> below the crystal oscillator phase noise floor.
> That will result in significantly better phase noise and much lower
> than using the synthesized 10MHz output from the board, and one 74' chip
> can generate both 10MHz and 5MHz out of the 20MHz LTE-Lite output. This
> exactly what we would do here if we needed a clean 10MHz from the 20MHz
> LTE-Lite board.
> I believe you can order low-noise divide-by-2 blue-top boxes from
> already packaged-up and connectorized as well.
> Hope that helps,
> Hi Said
> I was one of those looking for 10Mhz but I just thought again now that
> might be just as well to divide the standard 20Mhz output by 2 using a
> I think that would preserve all the desirable characteristics of the
> signal which I understand to just be square wave at CMOS 3.3v levels
> anyway. Is that correct?
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