[time-nuts] how to find low noise transistors (was: Firmware and antenna for Stanford Research FS700)

Pete Lancashire pete at petelancashire.com
Sat Jul 18 11:47:07 EDT 2015


I agree with Bob, find a vendor you can trust and make sure you buy from an
authorized distributor or if just need two or three parts try to get them
as samples.directly from the manufacturer. The reason for this is you may
get a fake or reject part and you will never know.

Trying to do the measurements yourself is pretty much out of the question
today.. Every improvement made it harder in that the equipment had to
itself be lower in noise

If interested

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=measuring+transistor+noise&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart





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-pete



On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Bob Camp <kb8tq at n1k.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> You have (and always have had) two basic choices:
>
> 1) Buy a very expensive part from somebody who has gone to the trouble
> of characterizing the noise performance and will guarantee at least some
> of what they show on the data sheet.
>
> 2) Buy a bunch of cheap transistors and test them. Lock in on a
> specific part and vendor. Keep monitoring what you get in case they
> “improve”
> their process and the magic goes away.
>
> How do you select candidates? That’s never been easy, there is less and
> less data on the sheets every day. Normally the first step is to look at
> a vendor that you have had luck with in the past. The next step is to ask
> them…
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> > On Jul 18, 2015, at 5:16 AM, Attila Kinali <attila at kinali.ch> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 23:25:10 -0400
> > Charles Steinmetz <csteinmetz at yandex.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A pair of Zetex (Diodes, Inc.)
> >> ZTX849 or FZT849 actually have significantly lower voltage noise than
> >> either the LM394 or MAT12.
> >
> > I always wonder how you figure out whether a transistor is low noise
> > or not. What part of the datasheet hints at which transistors have low
> > noise and which have not? Even if it's just try and measure, how
> > do you find good candidates to measure?
> >
> >                       Attila Kinali
> >
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