[time-nuts] Downsizing dilemma, HP 3335A

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Wed Nov 11 20:56:33 EST 2015


I know Zoya for many years, this ham business is a good idea.Give her my  
best regards , Ulrich 
 
 
In a message dated 11/11/2015 7:00:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rob at nc0b.com writes:

The EE  department at the University of Colorado has an enlightened 
professor.   

http://ecee.colorado.edu/faculty/popovic.html

Zoya required her  students to not only get a ham license, but to build a 
Norcal 40A.   

http://ecee.colorado.edu/~ecen2420/Files/NorCal40A_Manual.pdf


Most  of the EE students had no idea what a resistor really was, let alone 
have any  experience in soldering a resistor or capacitor on a PC board. One 
student  stuffed the PC board, bent all the leads 90 degrees without 
cutting any of  them off, and then in effect flow soldered the whole bottom of the 
PC  board!

One wonders how EE grads today can actually get a job and be  productive 
with so little hands-on experience.

Zoya belongs to the  Boulder (Colorado) Amateur Radio Club, and our monthly 
meetings are in the EE  department. It is too bad this is likely an unusual 
example of what happens on  campuses today.  

Rob
NC0B  


-----Original  Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On Behalf  Of Pete 
Lancashire
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:01 AM
To:  Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re:  [time-nuts] Downsizing dilemma, HP 3335A



I can understand the  downsizing, someday it will happen to me. And where I 
live there is pretty  much zero interest in anything electronic. The two 
local schools Portland  State and Reed both have EE but the students done seem 
to have any interest in  anything physical. they believe everything they 
need or have interest in can  be simulated on a computer. I helped one of the 
PSU EE's one day, just  finished his 2nd year, had an old Kenwood stereo 
distorted left output. He  pretty much had no idea what to do, and when 'we' 
found the bad transistor, he  didn't really know how to replace it.

BTW I know a Comp Sci graduate  from PSU that can not write a program in 
any language that outputs "Hello  World"

-pete Sad

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:08 AM, paul swed  <paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bill
> It is unfortunate  when the time comes to downsize. Even worse as time 
> goes by at least  for me each piece of test equipment from HP seems to 
> get heavier.  Must be dust building up inside. So as Ed says if you 
> need that fine  grain resolution you need them.
> But you are also running into the age  thing in the gear and that there 
> are failures that creep in that are  really a big problem to figure out.
> Especially if some form of  programmable logics involved.
> Lastly sending them to the dumpster is  the worst thing. But then the 
> ole reality really sets in selling  packing and shipping the stuff.
> I guess the good news is that today  there is a lot of replacement gear 
> that will do reasonably well thats  cheap respectively consumes little 
> power and can easily be controlled  by usb so you don't have to 
> actually stop experimenting.
>  Regards
> Paul
> WB8TSL
>
>
> On Thu, May 23,  2013 at 2:32 AM, ed breya <eb at telight.com> wrote:
>
> >  You don't save these kinds of synthesizers for high frequency 
> >  coverage, but for their 10 to 11 digit frequency resolution. If you 
>  > anticipate needing that, then of course they should be kept and 
>  > fixed. The long-obsolete telecom standard connectors and ranges are  
> > pretty much useless - sacrifice that one first if you need parts  for 
the others.
> >
> > If you need to justify keeping them,  you can use them for practical 
> > everyday applications. For  example, each one can store a telephone
> number -
> > as long  as the power doesn't go out.
> >
> > Ed
> >
>  >
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