[time-nuts] Einstein Special on PBS

Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net
Fri Nov 27 13:44:18 EST 2015


Hi Mike,

The time rate does remain the same - at the device.  The problem is the idea that it is the hyperfine transitions that determine the time.  They are only a measurement of the time in that environment.  So, if the rate of time is different at two locations, you will never see it *at* either location, because the clocks will run at the proper speed in either location; even though the rates are actually different between the two locations.  Since you are actually *at* that location, you can't tell that time runs at a different rate.  It is only by comparing the clocks in two different locations that you can determine the difference in space-time between these two locations.
If you are falling into a black hole, your watch will not appear to slow down to you.  You will still experience time as if you were sitting on your doorstep at home.  (Ignoring the effects of spaghettification, or course.)  But generations of people back on earth would live and die for each tick of your watch.

Bob
      From: Mike Feher <mfeher at eozinc.com>
 To: 'Bob Stewart' <bob at evoria.net>; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' <time-nuts at febo.com> 
 Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 12:10 PM
 Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Einstein Special on PBS
   
Bob -

Thanks for attempting to make me see the light. But, I still do not. You said it yourself that hyperfine transitions remain the same. Since "time" on these device are derived from these transitions, they should also remain the same. I agree, from a relativistic point of vie the time will be different. I am just not convinced that using these types of clocks will demonstrate that. Thanks - Mike 

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