[time-nuts] Low cost SDR suitable for phase noise measurement?
Bob Stewart
bob at evoria.net
Thu Aug 11 17:15:08 EDT 2016
Hi Bob,
If I understand the question correctly, yes. The DMTDs that I've encountered so far use a zero-crossing detector and a TIC. I wanted to build sort of a hybrid system that has a DMTD front end and an SDR back end. It seemed to me that that would be sort of half way between a DMTD and a Timepod. But whereas the Timepod digitizes 4 RF signals, this would digitize 2 audio signals. It may be that it suffers all the disadvantages of both and has the advantages of neither, but I thought I'd build it and see where it leads.
As to the 1 to 10 Hz range, doesn't that depend on the heterodyne frequency you choose? I mean, you don't have to use a 10 Hz offset, do you?
Bob
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From: Bob Camp <kb8tq at n1k.org>
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Hi
Just to clarify:
You are looking for a way to digitize the output(s) of the mixer(s) in a DMTD. The
“target signal” is in the 1 to 10 Hz range.
Is that correct or are you looking for something to use instead of a DMTD?
Bob
> On Aug 11, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Bob Stewart <bob at evoria.net> wrote:
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> Hi Brooke,
> It looks like I've asked a question poorly, yet again. So, let me try again. I have this idea of combining a DMTD with an SDR. So, said that way, it looks like what I really need is a 2-channel audio SDR. And having said that, maybe what I'm looking for is an external USB sound card. Those I can find. I can probably even figure out how to convert them to DC and supply them with a disciplined oscillator, if needed.
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> From: Brooke Clarke <brooke at pacific.net>
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> Hi Bob:
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> The SDR-IQ has a lower frequency limit of 500 Hz.
> http://www.prc68.com/I/Bats.shtml#SDRIQ
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> There is a mod that replaces the on board 66 MHz oscillator with one locked to 10 MHz.
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> -------- Original Message --------
>> A number of posts have appeared about Zynq SDRs on the "Shera revisited" thread. So, I'd like to ask the more general question: Are there any low cost SDRs that are suitable for measuring phase noise when coupled with a DMTD? I believe what I'm looking for is something with enough bits to work in the audio range down to DC. Yes, I could use a modified sound card, but I'm really looking for something not sound card related. My thought was to use a DMTD with a heterodyne frequency of maybe 5KHz.
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