[time-nuts] Working with SMT parts.
tmiller11147 at verizon.net
Fri Aug 12 12:28:06 EDT 2016
Bill, that is a great deal for $99 for the full package. Very easy to use
Thanks for the link.
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> Hi Didier,
> I use ExpressPCB as well, but I send the ExpressPCB file to a company
> called Futurlec
> ( http://www.futurlec.com/PCBService.shtml ). They have reasonable
> prices. Because it is overseas it takes about three weeks to get the
> product back. So far I have been very impressed with the product I
> recieved. I have even had notches done in the four corners to fit a
> plastic box that came out very well.
> Also, There is a person who started to write his own version of layout
> program based off of the ExpressPCB program called "Copper Connection."
> ( http://www.robotroom.com/CopperConnection/index.html ) It is a bit
> more involved than the ExpressPCB program and does have GERBER files as a
> selection. However he charges for the program but it seems the prices are
> reasonable ( http://www.robotroom.com/CopperConnection/Buy.html ).
> Didier Juges wrote:
>>The way ExpressPCB works is that their free software produces boards in a
>>proprietary format, and you have to pay to convert their design file to
>>Your mileage may vary but I found the combination of design tools learning
>>curve, board quality and quick service to be worthwhile to me.
>>I have tried Eagle twice and never could manage to build the models I
>>needed. It may have been an issue of not finding the right tutorial but I
>>have produced several ExpressPCB designs in less time than I have tried
>>(unsuccessfully) to produce a single schematic in Eagle, let alone a PWB.
>>Since it is a hobby that has become a business, time matters to me, design
>>time and delivery.
>>At that point, the cost of the Gerber becomes somewhat irrelevant.
>>Note that you can make boards of any size in ExpressPCB.
>>I am not advocating it is the best solution for everyone, I personally
>>would like to be proficient with Eagle, but Express PCB works for me.
>>On August 11, 2016 10:45:45 PM CDT, Chris Albertson
>><albertson.chris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>This seems totally backwards. Typically a Gerber file is something
>>>you make yourself on your computer then send it in for a prototype.
>>>Seems odd to buy them.
>>>I checked ExpressPCB prices and they are very high. I can get PCBs
>>>made quickly in the US for $3 per square inch, shipping included with
>>>$9 minimum order. And you don't buy the Gerbers.
>>>I notice ExpressPCB offers free software. But it is totally
>>>non-standard and you can't use it for anything other then for their
>>>service. Most people needing free PCB software use Eagle, some use
>>>Kicad or some others. But Eagle seems to be kind of a universal
>>>On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Didier Juges <shalimr9 at gmail.com>
>>>>I concur. I have been using ExpressPCB extensively over the last 2
>>>>with great satisfaction now that it is possible to get Gerber files
>>>>I typically use the mini board pro service (3 bare boards, 2 sided
>>>>solder mask and silk screen) for prototypes and then buy the Gerbers
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