[time-nuts] Good GPSDO on eBay?

Clint Jay cjaysharp at gmail.com
Sun Jul 10 05:23:01 EDT 2016

No,  my experience with Chinese sellers,  even when you file a "not as
described"  case,  is that eBay will require you to return the item at your
own expense if the seller has stated they will not pay return shipping.

Ebay's attitude was that the seller could just state in their item
description that buyer is to cover return costs and that's it.  Game over.

Which is why you occasionally still see items for peanuts and extortionate
shipping costs, the seller then only has to refund you a couple of dollars
on an item that may have cost you a hundred including shipping.

  I ended up getting a total refund of £3 on a £28 item once I'd returned
it and taken shipping into account. Also,  that was a PayPal refund, not a
seller refund because they just refused shipment so eBay refused to refund
as they had no proof of return.

All the above are the reasons why I now rarely if ever buy anything costing
more than a couple of pounds from China unless I know other people have had
good experience with the item and seller.
On 10 Jul 2016 05:46, "Chris Albertson" <albertson.chris at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Richard W. Solomon <w1ksz at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > What a deal, if it arrives DOA, return shipment is on
> > your nickel. I would look elsewhere.
> That is not true.  If it were DOA and the seller would not take it back
> post paid you could file a "not as described" on the seller and eBay would
> refund the price.  eBay and Paypal offer pretty good buyer protection.
> Someone here said the seller uses multiple IDs.  It is more likely that one
> person is making these and offering to multiple people who  then sell them
> on eBay.   This is the way it works in China, a popular design gets made
> and then is sold by many people.   It is all a cottage industry over there.
>    Pick any kind of electronic PCB level part, say a stepper motor driver
> and you see the same exact part from 20 different sellers not one seller
> with 20 IDs.    (Well that is the general case, this specific one might be
> different, who knows.)
> But so what even if the GPSDO is good only to 1xE10 that is still a very
> useful device to own.  Yes some are literally 1,000 times better
> You could always build your own.  It is not hard nor is it expensive if you
> have a reasonable goal and don't go for state of the art.
> --
> Chris Albertson
> Redondo Beach, California
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