[time-nuts] HP 5065A repair

Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org
Sun Mar 13 20:08:32 EDT 2016


Hi

Some math:

5x10^-11 over 50C

You have 1x10^-13 / C

If you have pretty good HVAC you get 2C cycles. On a typical home system, you get 2X that or more. 

Net is a bump at 2x10^-13 (or more). 

That assumes no hysteresis. (Hint: there always is hysteresis). 

That assumes you have no rate dependent effects. (… they almost always are present ..). 

If you are at 10X the data sheet level, the bump is more like 2x10^-12 (or more). Either one will likely show up on a good test plot.

Can you take care of all this? Of course you can. Does modeling and correcting all this fall into the “quick and easy fix” category? Nope, not at all. The thread is about a request for a simple approach to an Rb setup. That sort of thing does not include fancy models and all sorts of corrections. 

Bob



> On Mar 13, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
> 
> --------
> In message <AABMQMGVVAUQCPK2 at smtpout04.dca.untd.com>, cdelect at juno.com writes:
> 
>> As far a tempco goes, unless your lab swings tens of degrees will you
>> really see it?
> 
> Well, I do...
> 
> My air-con is far from optimal, but it clearly makes a very obvious
> bump in my AVAR plots.
> 
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