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KA2WEU at aol.com KA2WEU at aol.com
Sun Oct 30 06:34:28 EDT 2016

I think "treatment " is the word of  choice but we all know what is meant .
73 de Ulrich 
In a message dated 10/29/2016 8:28:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
preilley_454 at comcast.net writes:

Please  don't take this wrong but your use of the word "treaty" is wrong.
I think  you mean "treatise".


On 10/29/2016 8:05 PM, Attila Kinali  wrote:
> Hoi Ulrich,
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:56:53  -0400
> KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <time-nuts at febo.com>  wrote:
>> The Parzen book was on my list (Amazon ), I find  these books,  including
>> Rhea's book practically useless as  they do not provide the necessary  
>> -linear noise  analysis, and do not have real live examples with test 
>>  Cerda's "Understanding Quartz Crystals and Oscillators book I have not  
> You don't have to look then. There are very few people who  actually 
> at the noise in oscillator circuits and tried to  optimize it. You and
> Poddar are definitely those who wrote most about  it. Then comes probably
> Enrico. One can find a paper here and there  analysing different noise
> sources, but never a complete  treaty.
> The lack of noise/non-linear analysis does not mean  you cannot learn
> from those books, though. They are good books to  learn from on how to
> build an oscillator. Once that is achieved, one  can learn how to make
> it low noise by reading your books  :-)
>                  Attila  Kinali

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