[time-nuts] HP 5065A super

Charles Steinmetz csteinmetz at yandex.com
Thu Feb 22 09:04:30 EST 2018

> A    is the LT1793 the best choice the time constant is 0.05 seconds with a 10 K resistor and 5 uF Capacitor
> B    should we add resistors and decoupling on the + - 15 volt op amp supplies
> C    Gold plating the edge connecter,  does any one know a reasonable source, or is doing it at home an option and if yes, how best way to do so.

A.  The 1793 is a good choice.  You should look at the LT1012 also.  The 
headlines on the 1793 datasheet suggest it is significantly quieter than 
the 1012.  HOWEVER: you are particularly interested in frequencies well 
below 10Hz, and due to an extremely low 1/f noise corner, the 1012 is 
actually 5x quieter than the 1793 between 0.1 and 10 Hz (0.5uV for the 
1012 p-p vs. 2.4uV p-p for the 1793).  The 1012 can also be 
overcompensated, which could be a significant advantage in this 
application.  [Note that the 1793 has lower input current noise than the 
1012, but that is irrelevant in the HP circuit because of the relatively 
low impedances at the op-amp inputs.  Because of that, the input voltage 
noise dominates the total noise.]

B.  If you do this, the decoupling has to be good down through at least 
milliHz, maybe even microHz.  That would require capacitors in the 1F 
range with suitable decoupling resistors (100 ohms or below).  The op 
amp is fed by dedicated +/- regulators, so you'll get the best result by 
just using the lowest-noise regulators available.  That means the LT3042 
for V+.  You will have to pore through datasheets to find the 
lowest-noise negative regulator available today (as above, paying 
particular attention to the noise specs below 1Hz).

C.  You normally just tell the board house to plate the edge fingers. 
It is not outrageously expensive.  OR, here is another, heretical 
suggestion:  I have designed a number of plug-in daughterboards using 
ENIG finish on the whole board, including the edge fingers.  *NOTE* this 
is an "off-label" use of ENIG finish.  The board house I used for the 
first batch of ENIG-plated fingers (ITEAD Studio) gave me very robust 
plating, so I have continued to use them for boards with ENIG-plated 
edge fingers.

I tested a number of the cards over more than 100 insertion-removal 
cycles, and viewed under magnification there was very little wear and 
absolutely no nickel or copper showing ("ENIG" stands for "electroless 
nickel immersion gold," meaning the copper is coated first with nickle 
and then with gold.  The boards I've tested have not worn through the 
gold even after >100 insertion-removal cycles -- way, way more than any 
plug-in board is likely ever to see.)

*NB:*  ENIG plating varies widely from one board house to another, and 
very likely varies somewhat from one batch to another at any particular 
board house, so YMMV!!!  I've done a dozen or so projects with 
ENIG-plated fingers using ITEAD Studio, and have been very pleased with 
the results each time.


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