[volt-nuts] HP3458a available (was Re: hp 3458a advice)

Eric Garner garnere at gmail.com
Wed Feb 6 16:22:16 EST 2013


sorry all, that was meant to be off list



On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Eric Garner <garnere at gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I'm interested in the 3458a. I'm located in Portland, OR since that
> affects your decision. I've been lusting after a 3458a for sometime.
> Since I'm on a budget most of my equipment is acquired in "needs TLC"
> condition, so i'm used to a project. fortunately for me my day job has
> it's yearly calibration in a few months so if I get it I can get it
> cal'd properly (taking the techs out for beers goes a long way).
>
> thanks
>
> -eric
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Paul Fox <pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us> wrote:
>> resurrecting a somewhat older thread --
>>
>> it's now clear to me that i have little interest in (or time for)
>> resurrecting my 3458a.  several people on the list were interested in
>> it when i first brought it up, and you were all very helpful.  i'd
>> rather not go through the ebay hassle, and i'd rather make it
>> available to one of you folks first in any case.
>>
>> i've put up a small set of pictures, along with a short video of
>> the startup sequence at http://www.foxharp.net/hp3458a .  re-reading
>> my original list message (below), i see that my startup video didn't
>> capture an error message i saw back in october.  so in addition to the
>> "110, Calibration required -- ACAL" message in the video, i guess we
>> should assume that it sometimes gives "204, "Hardware Failure -- Flatness
>> DAC Convergence:  198"
>>
>> i haven't opened the unit, and wasn't really planning on it.  if
>> there's something that you'd like to know that will be clear from just
>> looking, and if it might appreciably change the unit's value for you,
>> let me know and i'll find a screwdriver and take some more pictures.
>>
>> i have two original (i believe) copies of the manual.  no service manual.
>> firmware version is "REV 2,1".
>>
>> so how about this:  best offer (by private mail) under $350 gets it,
>> shipping not included (it looks like shipping will be in the $40 to $80
>> range, once i find a box).  for obvious reasons, a local-to-boston
>> transaction will be given a lot of preference.
>>
>> i'll wait until next wednesday evening (i.e., about a week -- feb 13)
>> before choosing a lucky recipient, since i hear some people don't read
>> their mail as continuously as i do.
>>
>> paul
>>
>> i wrote:
>>  > thanks joe, and to the other couple of people who responded privately.
>>  > i need to figure out how much of a project i want this to be, and how
>>  > it ranks against all the other projects that i also don't have time
>>  > for.  :-)
>>  >
>>  > i have the full users manual (two copies!), but i don't have anything
>>  > else that speaks GPIB.  i'll play with some of the front panel
>>  > commands you've suggested, while i think about what to do.  thanks!
>>  >
>>  > paul
>>  >
>>  > j. l. trantham wrote:
>>  >  > Paul,
>>  >  >
>>  >  > First, the meter is worth something if nothing other than parts.  It is
>>  ...
>>  >  > Good luck.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > Joe
>>  >  >
>>  >  > -----Original Message-----
>>  >  > From: volt-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
>>  >  > Behalf Of Paul Fox
>>  >  > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:50 AM
>>  >  > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
>>  >  > Subject: [volt-nuts] hp 3458a advice
>>  >  >
>>  >  > hi --
>>  >  >
>>  >  > i'm not a volt-nuts regular, and not even a precision measurement nut
>>  >  > at all, but given past discussion in the list archives, i think you
>>  >  > folks might be able to help.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > i was recently given an HP 3458a multimeter.  the donor thought it
>>  >  > worked when he last used it, but that was quite a long time ago, and i
>>  >  > think it was stored in an attic for some time, so i'm not too
>>  >  > surprised that it now doesn't pass self tests. :-/  he mainly wanted
>>  >  > it out of his house, along with a bunch of other vintage (sadly mostly
>>  >  > non-working) equipment he'd accumulated over the years.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > the self-test error is:
>>  >  >     ERRSTR 204, "Hardware Failure -- Flatness DAC Convergence: 198"
>>  >  >
>>  >  > judging from past list traffic, repairs on these units are
>>  >  > expensive, and it would still need recalibration to be useful, and
>>  >  > there are may be other parts (eeproms?) that may not be good
>>  >  > any more.  i'm not really interested in pursuing any of this
>>  >  > myself.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > what's worse is that the unit doesn't have a serial number.  (i assume
>>  >  > the s/n would normally be obvious on the rear of the unit.)  it bears a
>>  >  > sticker on the back that says "MTG PROTO 27".  i think the unit came
>>  >  > from a place that themselves produced reference standards, and they
>>  >  > may have gotten a very early model from HP to work with.  that's
>>  >  > conjecture.  i haven't opened the unit, so i don't know if there are
>>  >  > other clues to its age inside.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > so:  is this machine useful to anyone?  given the error message above,
>>  >  > are there any measurements at all that it might still get correct, in
>>  >  > it's current state?
>>  >  >
>>  >  > paul
>>  >  > =---------------------
>>  >  >  paul fox, pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 63.1 degrees)
>>  >  >
>>
>> =---------------------
>>  paul fox, pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 30.0 degrees)
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