[time-nuts] The future of UTC

Rob Kimberley rk at timing-consultants.com
Tue Jul 19 17:57:42 UTC 2011


My earlier reply about flexible working practices still holds. Why not just
move with the seasons. Before clocks, I'm sure that's what we did - we got
up when it was light, and went to bed when it was dark. The bit in between
just happens to be elastic...

I live at 53 degrees North in the UK by the way.

Rob K

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Palfreyman
Sent: 19 July 2011 1:58 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC

Far out. I've just read so many logical fallacies and government
conspiracies I'm embarrassed for this high quality list. Let's inject some
facts here.

I live at 43 degrees south. At the winter solstice (June 21) the sun rises
at 7:41 and sets at 16:43.

At the summer solstice (December 21) the sun rises (no DST) at 04:28 and
sets at 19:49.

Sunrise at 04:28 is ridiculous. Including twilight it starts getting light
at 3:30. Switch to DST and sunrise moves to 05:28 and sets at 20:49. Much
more reasonable. Nice summer evenings too.

We have DST for 6 months of the year and wouldn't swap it for anything.

I understand it's different the closer to the equator you are, but for mid
latitudes it really works.

Jim




On Tuesday, 19 July 2011, Thomas A Frank <ka2cdk at cox.net> wrote:
>>> BLOCK: This may be kind of an urban legend, but I thought I had heard
that one of the backers behind extending Daylight Saving Time into the
beginning of November was the candy industry, and it all had to do with
Halloween.
>>>
>>> Mr. DOWNING: This is no kind of legend. This is the truth. For 25 years,
candy-makers have wanted to get trick-or-treat covered by Daylight Saving,
figuring that if children have an extra hour of daylight, they'll collect
more candy. In fact, they went so far during the 1985 hearings on Daylight
Saving as to put candy pumpkins on the seat of every senator, hoping to win
a little favor.
>
>
> I would say it backfired.
>
> At least here in Rhode Island, the extra daylight resulted in the
compression of the trick or treating schedule, since all the little goblins
and ghouls wanted to go out after dark (to better scare the homeowners and
enjoy their glow in the dark costumes), but they also were expected home by
8pm (local).
>
> Net result is less candy given out.
>
> At least that has been my experience.
>
> Proving you shouldn't tamper with time. Measure yes, tamper, no. :-)
>
> Tom Frank, KA2CDK
>
>
>
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