[time-nuts] The future of UTC

Heathkid heathkid at heathkid.com
Fri Jul 22 04:23:58 UTC 2011


I live at 39° 57' 46" N and I absolutely HATE DST!  Yes, Indiana... we 
haven't had DST for too long.  It's bad and I hope some day we go back to 
not having it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Kimberley" <rk at timing-consultants.com>
To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" 
<time-nuts at febo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC


> My earlier reply about flexible working practices still holds. Why not 
> just
> move with the seasons. Before clocks, I'm sure that's what we did - we got
> up when it was light, and went to bed when it was dark. The bit in between
> just happens to be elastic...
>
> I live at 53 degrees North in the UK by the way.
>
> Rob K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Palfreyman
> Sent: 19 July 2011 1:58 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC
>
> Far out. I've just read so many logical fallacies and government
> conspiracies I'm embarrassed for this high quality list. Let's inject some
> facts here.
>
> I live at 43 degrees south. At the winter solstice (June 21) the sun rises
> at 7:41 and sets at 16:43.
>
> At the summer solstice (December 21) the sun rises (no DST) at 04:28 and
> sets at 19:49.
>
> Sunrise at 04:28 is ridiculous. Including twilight it starts getting light
> at 3:30. Switch to DST and sunrise moves to 05:28 and sets at 20:49. Much
> more reasonable. Nice summer evenings too.
>
> We have DST for 6 months of the year and wouldn't swap it for anything.
>
> I understand it's different the closer to the equator you are, but for mid
> latitudes it really works.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 19 July 2011, Thomas A Frank <ka2cdk at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> BLOCK: This may be kind of an urban legend, but I thought I had heard
> that one of the backers behind extending Daylight Saving Time into the
> beginning of November was the candy industry, and it all had to do with
> Halloween.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. DOWNING: This is no kind of legend. This is the truth. For 25 
>>>> years,
> candy-makers have wanted to get trick-or-treat covered by Daylight Saving,
> figuring that if children have an extra hour of daylight, they'll collect
> more candy. In fact, they went so far during the 1985 hearings on Daylight
> Saving as to put candy pumpkins on the seat of every senator, hoping to 
> win
> a little favor.
>>
>>
>> I would say it backfired.
>>
>> At least here in Rhode Island, the extra daylight resulted in the
> compression of the trick or treating schedule, since all the little 
> goblins
> and ghouls wanted to go out after dark (to better scare the homeowners and
> enjoy their glow in the dark costumes), but they also were expected home 
> by
> 8pm (local).
>>
>> Net result is less candy given out.
>>
>> At least that has been my experience.
>>
>> Proving you shouldn't tamper with time. Measure yes, tamper, no. :-)
>>
>> Tom Frank, KA2CDK
>>
>>
>>
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