[time-nuts] The future of UTC

[Jim Palfreyman]

Mr HeathKid,

What is your reason for "hating dst". The changeover is a pain - but after
that, what is the problem?

Jim


On 22 July 2011 14:23, Heathkid <heathkid at heathkid.com> wrote:

> I live at 39° 57' 46" N and I absolutely HATE DST!  Yes, Indiana... we
> haven't had DST for too long.  It's bad and I hope some day we go back to
> not having it.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Kimberley" <
> rk at timing-consultants.com>
> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" <
> time-nuts at febo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:57 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC
>
>
>  My earlier reply about flexible working practices still holds. Why not
>> just
>> move with the seasons. Before clocks, I'm sure that's what we did - we got
>> up when it was light, and went to bed when it was dark. The bit in between
>> just happens to be elastic...
>>
>> I live at 53 degrees North in the UK by the way.
>>
>> Rob K
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@**febo.com<time-nuts-bounces at febo.com>]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Jim Palfreyman
>> Sent: 19 July 2011 1:58 PM
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC
>>
>> Far out. I've just read so many logical fallacies and government
>> conspiracies I'm embarrassed for this high quality list. Let's inject some
>> facts here.
>>
>> I live at 43 degrees south. At the winter solstice (June 21) the sun rises
>> at 7:41 and sets at 16:43.
>>
>> At the summer solstice (December 21) the sun rises (no DST) at 04:28 and
>> sets at 19:49.
>>
>> Sunrise at 04:28 is ridiculous. Including twilight it starts getting light
>> at 3:30. Switch to DST and sunrise moves to 05:28 and sets at 20:49. Much
>> more reasonable. Nice summer evenings too.
>>
>> We have DST for 6 months of the year and wouldn't swap it for anything.
>>
>> I understand it's different the closer to the equator you are, but for mid
>> latitudes it really works.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 19 July 2011, Thomas A Frank <ka2cdk at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> BLOCK: This may be kind of an urban legend, but I thought I had heard
>>>>>
>>>> that one of the backers behind extending Daylight Saving Time into the
>> beginning of November was the candy industry, and it all had to do with
>> Halloween.
>>
>>>
>>>>> Mr. DOWNING: This is no kind of legend. This is the truth. For 25
>>>>> years,
>>>>>
>>>> candy-makers have wanted to get trick-or-treat covered by Daylight
>> Saving,
>> figuring that if children have an extra hour of daylight, they'll collect
>> more candy. In fact, they went so far during the 1985 hearings on Daylight
>> Saving as to put candy pumpkins on the seat of every senator, hoping to
>> win
>> a little favor.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would say it backfired.
>>>
>>> At least here in Rhode Island, the extra daylight resulted in the
>>>
>> compression of the trick or treating schedule, since all the little
>> goblins
>> and ghouls wanted to go out after dark (to better scare the homeowners and
>> enjoy their glow in the dark costumes), but they also were expected home
>> by
>> 8pm (local).
>>
>>>
>>> Net result is less candy given out.
>>>
>>> At least that has been my experience.
>>>
>>> Proving you shouldn't tamper with time. Measure yes, tamper, no. :-)
>>>
>>> Tom Frank, KA2CDK
>>>
>>>
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