[time-nuts] Cell timing error
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Sat Dec 15 23:59:08 UTC 2012
I can assure you the GSM shacks have GPS timing in them. I can dig up the photos if you want.
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From: "Joseph Orsak" <jorsak at nc.rr.com>
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:24:20
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cell timing error
AT&T uses UMTS in most areas which is a "self-synchronizing" modulation
scheme. Supposedly one of the selling points is "no dependence on GPS". All
the extra sync channels and sync messaging is a capacity hog, not a very
spectrally efficient standard in my opinion.
About 85 maximum simultaneous voice calls in a 5Mhz UL / 5 Mhz DL
sector/carrier before it starts to fall apart. A big step backwards from
good old CDMA2000 (also just my opinion).
But hey, you can surf the web while you talk on the same device.
-Joe W4WN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cell timing error
> On 12/15/12 2:16 PM, Scott McGrath wrote:
>> In a prior life we had a CDMA timing receiver for NTP which used VZ for
>> its source
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Graham / KE9H <timenut at austin.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You should switch to Verizon.
>>> They are inherently accurate to milliseconds.
>>> Sub micro-seconds inside the base stations.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/15/2012 12:51 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>>>> In central mass, AT&T and tracfone (? carrier) are showing phone times
>>>> very close to 1 min slow. Virgin/sprint is ok. I've never seen this
>>>> before - usually it's a few s slow.
>>>>
>
>
> The time *displayed* on the phone might not reflect the time from the
> network.
>
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