[time-nuts] GPS receivers W/timing outputs greater than 1PPS

[Scott McGrath]

Why many US sellers will not ship internationally.  It's fun to bash Americans because most of them don't have a passport but that's not the reason in this case.

 It's simple paperwork which must be maintained for inspection by a bunch of federal agencies for a minimum of 7 years.  And may your $DEITY help you if it's a dual use item which ends up somewhere its not supposed to be.

It's not the shipping it's the record keeping and legal liability which prevent many US sellers from shipping internationally it's simply not worth going to jail because you lost a customs declaration or someone sold their Rb oscillator to someone in the US embargoed states list.  Does not matter that YOU did not sell it someone else did.  You are still responsible for it until destroyed if its a dual use device if you exported it from US. And people wonder why US sellers don't want to deal with international sales.



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On Jun 26, 2013, at 7:04 PM, "Mike M" <timenuts at binsamp.e4ward.com> wrote:

>  Mark C. Stephens
>  Wed Jun 26 10:12:53 EDT 2013
> 
>> RDR have some fantastic stuff.
> 
>> But they won't ship outside of USA.
> 
>> I have  tried everything but according to Mark  Cole  the manager,
>> "The loss  of  time  and   the  additional  risk  of international
>> shipping doesn't fit with our business profile"
> 
>  I don't  know  why   they   think   there  is  additional  risk with
>  international shipments. Just send it with a signature required, and
>  it has exactly the same risk as any ordinary shipment in the US. But
>  a lot of vendors feel the same way.
> 
>  If you are in Canada, you can have them ship to a forwarder who will
>  then ship  it across the border for you. Of course,  they  add their
>  extra charge for the service.
> 
>  If you  are  outside the US and would like to  get  a  M12+, fluke.l
>  sells them for $35.00 plus shipping. See
> 
>  Motorola ONCORE M12+T timing gps receiver 1pps 100hz
> 
>  http://www.ebay.com/itm/290656401551
> 
>  I have  dealt with fluke.l for many years. His stuff is of  the very
>  highest quality  and  he checks it  carefully  before  shipment. His
>  prices are a bit higher than some others, but other vendors may ship
>  you worthless junk like tool_nerd.
> 
>  fluke.l has  the  lab equipment and experience to  know  what  he is
>  doing and  ships only the highest quality stuff. See  his  web store
>  for example of his lab setup.
> 
>  But under no circumstance ever buy anything on eBay from tool_nerd.
> 
>  They ship  junk that has been badly abused. They failed  to  warn me
>  that I had to modify a FE-5680A Rubidium oscillator in order  to get
>  access to  the variable frequency output. Not only was this  a large
>  amount of  work  to  drill all the  rivets  out,  it  risked getting
>  shavings inside  the unit when drilling the case for  the  coax. The
>  unit arrived  with deep gouges in the cover, indicating it  had been
>  treated very badly.
> 
>  I told them I would not accept such crap, and wanted to send it back
>  for refund.  They said OK, they would refund the entire  amount when
>  it arrived.  I sent it to the exact address they gave  me,  and they
>  refused to acknowledge receipt. In fact, they stopped replying to my
>  emails when  it arrived. So I am out the $83.00 for  the  unit, plus
>  the $20.00 postage. It would have cost far too much to send  it with
>  a signature  required, but they convinced me they  were  very honest
>  and would honor the agreement.
> 
>  I should  have never wasted my time and money. Don't  make  the same
>  mistake.
> 
>  Regards,
> 
>  Mike M
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