[time-nuts] GPS receivers W/timing outputs greater than 1PPS
Robert Atkinson
robert8rpi at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Jun 29 10:05:39 EDT 2013
Hi Mike,
You need to be carefull what you post online. We now have the last four and first ten digits of your credit card, plus you address and signature. You should remove or alter these images ASAP.
While I'm sorry that you lost out, it's clearly stated that you must use signed for delivery. Don't ever use anything else for ebay transactions unless you can afford to write the whole thing off as a loss.
On photo's, copying details from dealers websites is quite commom. If I see a suspect listing a quick ebay "completed item" or google image search will often show up the source of the image. Here in the UK a few scammers used photos from the website of a dealer that I used to use the physical store of (M&B Radio Leeds) I could easilly spot them just form the background in the image.
Robert G8RPI.
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From: Mike M <timenuts at binsamp.e4ward.com>
To: Mike M <time-nuts at febo.com>
Sent: Saturday, 29 June 2013, 9:11
Subject: [time-nuts] GPS receivers W/timing outputs greater than 1PPS
Mike M wrote:
Chris Albertson wrote:
>> About your being "out" some money. Did you ask talk to either
>> eBay or PayPal about it. Most items are covered by their buyer
>> protection policy. You can make a claim for "not as described"
>> and they will impound the funds pending resolution.
> Paypal Buyer Protection is a scam.
> Paypal requires you to return the unit and pay for shipping. They
> also require a tracking number for proof of delivery. From Canada,
> this can be a significant portion of the value of the item.
> Tool-Nerd conned me into sending the unit back without a tracking
> number. This cost only $20. He received the item, but told Paypal
> he never received it. So I was out the $89 for the FE-5680A, plus
> the $20 postage.
> I went to my bank, thinking since I used my credit card for the
> purchase, they would honor the claim and refund my money.
> They simply turned the matter over to Paypal, who said I did not
> provide proof of delivery and denied the claim. I lost the entire
> amount.
For proof, I have started a new web site and uploaded two files for
your perusal.
Here is a copy of the Canada Customs Decaration, Canada Post fee,
and Interac receipt when I shipped the FE-5680 back to tool_nerd:
http://www.mrmonett.netne.net/ebay/fe5680.pdf
I was wrong on the price for the FE-5680A. It was $84.99, not $89.
Here is Paypal rejecting the VISA chargeback:
http://www.mrmonett.netne.net/ebay/reject.pdf
So relying on your credit card company to help does not work.
Mike M
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