[time-nuts] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Errors on HP 58503A GPS time & frequency reference receiver bought from yixunhk.

Mike Cook michael.cook at sfr.fr
Sat Dec 13 14:28:18 EST 2014


> Le 13 déc. 2014 à 17:59, Chris Albertson <albertson.chris at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Did you file a "not as described" dispute with eBay?  They take those
> seriously.
> 
  At the time there was not the « report item» button that you see on the item descriptions now. Maybe they take infractions more seriously now. I must admit that the lack of positive action at the time made me think it’s a waste of time reporting anything. 


> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Mike Cook <michael.cook at sfr.fr> wrote:
>> 
>> I personally have found eBay notably unhelpful in cases where illegal or
>> unethical practice are reported.
>> As an example, four or five years ago I found a Spanish seller selling a
>> lens I have in my collection, same serial number, same photo that appeared
>> on eBay when I bought it some months previously . I reported it to the
>> Spanish police and to ebay. Result a couple of mails thanking me for
>> reporting it, then zip. The same item was on sale for more than a month
>> after I reported it. I had the same weak response on the occasions where I
>> have detected and reported « shilling » practices. Let us know if you have
>> more luck.
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 13 déc. 2014 à 11:36, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) <
>> drkirkby at kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> On 13 December 2014 at 05:13, Peter <timenut at exemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On 12 December 2014 at 08:31, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This has been reported to eBay by telephone, reported to the police,
>> and I will soon create a case on
>>>>> eBay, and report it as a fake. I have a crime reference number from
>> the police.
>>>> 
>>>>> Unlike others, I *am* going to do something about this scam, rather
>> than just get my money back and
>>>>> let the problem persist for others.
>>>> 
>>>> It's great that you have generously decided to help expose the scams of
>> yixunhk, particularly considering the time and effort involved.  I am sure
>> that many, especially time-nuts, will be grateful.  Of course, yixunhk's
>> HP-equipment rebirthing scams are not confined to the HP 58503A/B models -
>> but your reporting to eBay should nevertheless also help expose yixunhk's
>> other scams.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> Thank you Peter.
>>> 
>>> I find it odd that so many time-nuts appear to be aware of this scam,
>>> but have done little or nothing about it.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if this is a "British thing" to want to report such
>>> practices, but we do have a few TV programs where reporters have
>>> exposed scammers. e.g.
>>> 
>>> "Coyboy Builders"
>>> http://www.channel5.com/shows/cowboy-builders
>>> 
>>> "You've Been Scammed"
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017k60v
>>> 
>>> In contrast, it seems many time-nuts are aware yixunhk is selling
>>> counterfeit items, several have fallen victim to it, but few if any
>>> have done done anything about it. I find that quite strange myself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave
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> 
> Chris Albertson
> Redondo Beach, California
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