[time-nuts] HP 5065A super

Warren Kumari warren at kumari.net
Fri Feb 23 17:09:42 EST 2018

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Leo Bodnar <leo at leobodnar.com> wrote:
> Here is ENIG fact that is not widely known at the moment but which some might find useful.
> I could not understand why I get better TDR and insertion loss results from solder-mask covered microstrip transmission lines than from otherwise identical microstrips on the same substrate with soldermask removed and, therefore, covered with ENIG.
> Gold can't be bad, right? As it turns out, even gold coin has two sides to it.
> I have found that Shlepnev and McMorrow conducted extensive research and published data, some of which is presented here http://www.simberian.com/Presentations/NickelCharacterizationPresentation_emc2011.pdf
> In essence, it's not the "G" that is the problem - it is the "N".
> Immersion Gold layer is not thick enough to contain whole of the skin effect layer (even towards 100GHz) and as signal frequency increases most of the signal ends up travelling through Nickel.
> As Shlepnev commented "Nickel is the most mysterious metal in electronics."  It has significant effect on insertion loss and risetime degradation.  "Significant effect" is posh for "bad."

It might be the most mysterious, but Zinc gets my vote for "most
annoying". See:

I once worked in a datacenter which had such a bad case of zinc
whiskers that, when we got bored, we'd turn off the lights and watch
the pretty blue arcs as the whiskers would get pulled through power
supplies, bridge something which could deliver current and vaporize,
making a small snapping noise in the process. The scary part was that
you could bang on the side of a crac, wait 30 seconds, and be rewarded
with a fireworks show...


> Some mass PCB manufacturers have been known to apply ENIG before soldermasking.  This causes even more high speed/frequency problems because all of the copper on the outside layers will have Nickel over it - exposed or not.
> Probably not a problem for majority of ENIG users but could cause a headache or two for unsuspecting.
> Leo
>> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 19:02:25 +0000
>> From: Mark Sims <holrum at hotmail.com>
>> Yes, have the board done with ENIG gold.  It typically adds around $15 per run of boards.  I do all my boards with ENIG gold... if for no other reason than the gold color makes it very easy to determine when your solder paste properly covers the pads.
>> And, as Charles mentioned,  the quality and thickness of the gold can vary depending upon the board house.  I have used gojgo.com for a lot of boards.  They do very good, quick work,  are well priced, and they seem to have the best gold finish.
>> Hard gold finish is VERY expensive these days.  I've been quoted $250+ for setup charges and per-board costs of over $25.
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I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.

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