[time-nuts] ✘NEO-M8N vs. NEO-M8T

MLewis mlewis000 at rogers.com
Mon May 21 21:51:26 EDT 2018

Having a linux box (Pi) dedicated as a time server should mean you have 
consistent delays?
To offload time server requests so they don't affect disciplining 
response/timing, would it be worthwhile having one Pi dedicated to being 
disciplined by the GPS, then have that pi discipline a second Pi that 
handles time server requests?

PPS-Client measures the delay of a Pi GPIO port and over time adjusts 
the PPS to compensate. I'd think PPS-Client could be modified to process 
the sawtooth. And possibly to adjust for the delays in writing to system 

The M8T's two EXTINT (External Interrupt) pins keep nagging me that the 
resulting timestamp (Timemark UBX-TIM-TM2 message) suggests that such a 
GNSS chip timestamp (not the iTOW value) should be able to be used to 
advantage, say to measure the net delays in getting a PPS to discipline 
system time.
-  Would the difference between a timestamp of Linux system time and a 
chip-internal timestamp provide a meaningful and worthwhile adjustment, 
to system time or to the incoming PPS?
-  Would successive pairs of timestamps provide the net delay in writing 
such a corrected system time, allowing for a further refined correction?
-  Should such a correction be an absolute adjustment based on the pair 
delta, or should a period of deltas be smoothed and applied over time?
-  Would/could such a correction (measuring and adjusting based on the 
end result of system time) provide a superior result in system time than 
a sawtooth corrected PPS triggering a write to system time?


On 21/05/2018 3:21 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote:
> Gregory!
> On Mon, 21 May 2018 19:06:17 +0000
> Gregory Maxwell <greg at xiph.org> wrote:
>> My best guess is that the magnitude of sawtooth error is just not
>> large enough to matter for typical applications of linux PPS.
> No need to guess.  I recently posted that the RasPi 3B granularity is
> 52 nano Seconds and the PPS offset reported by UBX-TP is double that!
> So, clearly it matters.
> I'll do more data logging to get harder numbers.
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