[volt-nuts] do you like Labview in your labs?

J. Forster jfor at quik.com
Mon Dec 6 23:02:19 UTC 2010

Nothing of the sort. Bill Gates could not possibly convince me that
something that does not work is OK. MS SW works for me.

I've yet to see flaws in the MS or really any other commercial apps. I can
(and still do) run 20+ year old DOS stuff. 10 year old Office stuff still
works fine and has far more features than I'll ever need.

I have seen SW completely cease to work when an OS on a Mac was changed
from N to (N+1).




> Well J Forester,
> I can see that Bill Gates has convinced you those FLAWS are design
> features.
> However, it never hurts to spend some time investigating some of the
> Opensource.
> Who knows there may actually be a "gem" in there, even within the confines
> of
> your set of rules.
> Bill....WB6BNQ
> "J. Forster" wrote:
>> > If you stick with a stable version of an opensource software product,
>> and
>> > don't upgrade it, programmers won't "screw with it".  On the other
>> hand,
>> > if
>> > you upgrade any software, open source, or not, programmers will have
>> > screwed
>> > with it.  That's why it is called an upgrade.
>> That's why I said "older version". I generally go fr the last Rev before
>> a
>> major upgrade. Never a new release.
>> > So, you discovered the problem with using an incompetent programmer.
>> They
>> > exist.  Any competent programmer would have tested the utility to make
>> > sure
>> > that you could backup and restore everything the utility was supposed
>> to
>> > backup and restore.
>> Not in this case. The Harvard lab only had 1 disk drive, not several.
>> > Most of the opensource projects are built by teams.  Virtually every
>> > project
>> > that I mentioned earlier were written by corporate teams.
>> Openoffice.org
>> > is by
>> > Sun. Mozilla, by Netscape.  SELinux, by NSA. Octave, by the University
>> of
>> > Texas, and funded by DEC, SUN, IBM, ..., OpenSolaris is by Sun.
>> Python is
>> > by the Python Software Foundation (A non-profit corporation).  The
>> > ubiquitous
>> > scripting language PERL was written by the genius Larry Wall.
>> So what? You like UNIX. I don't.
>> > Further, if you used any of the earlier versions of windows
>> (95,98,XP),
>> > the
>> > IP layer, and PPP code were lifted verbatim from BSD unix.  IE was
>> based
>> > on
>> > the open source mosaic project.
>> But MS put it together, along with Word, Excel, Access and it all works
>> well. No muss, no fuss. I used to use Netscape, until it would no longer
>> work for eBay. I see ZERO advantage to screwing around with myriads of
>> programs, when all I need is a very few basic tools.
>> > I can't think of a single microprocessor/controller manufacturer in
>> the
>> > last
>> > 15 years that didn't first do the porting work for their new machine
>> to
>> > the opensource GCC compiler.
>> So what? Just because a company uses a CNC machine to make a mold for
>> something, I just need what comes out of the mold.
>> > You are really doing yourself a disservice letting the experiences you
>> had
>> > with one incompetent programmer keep you from enjoying the goodies
>> offered by the opensource software movement.
>> And by not moving my various Groups to Facebook also, so I'm told. Not
>> going to happen.
>> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The tools on my desktop are just about
>> every one that I need. They are tools, not ends in themselves.
>> > If you stay with the stable releases
>> > of Debian, or Ubuntu, or Mint linux, I dare say you will never find a
>> bug.
>> >
>> > -Chuck Harris
>> >
>> I've never found a bug in any of the commercial SW I use, actually.
>> There
>> are a few crocks, but no bugs.
>> -John
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