[time-nuts] Fake 58503

Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org
Sun Dec 14 10:08:38 EST 2014


> On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Magnus Danielson <magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote:
> Fellow time-nuts,
> I have seen the long debate about the fake 58503s. Maybe we should take a step back and think a little about that. Why does someone rebuild say Z3801s into 58503s?

or convert 3805’s the same way …

> Because somehow they are expected to have a higher value, and therefore there is a profit to be made in doing so.
> Why is there a higher value? Because the potential buys have made that decision, sub-consciously. There is a few differences, but to some degree they are superficial.
> If you want to reduce the likelihood of being fooled by fakes, then don't raise certain "magic number" boxes to the skies and prices with it.
> I could make better use of my Z3801A if I did a few mods myself, beyond the modification from RS422 to RS232. Honest mods and upgrades is one thing we might encourage rather than encourage the fakes.
> I too have considered the 58503, but consider the price disproportionate to what the Z3801A gives me.

Even the “real genuine original” Z38xx and 58xxx boxes differ mainly in the power supply area. The firmware and performance differences are minor.

> So, let's stop this thread of hurt feelings, while it has been interesting and enlightening, we can't get very much more right now. Let's open our boxes and try to see the modifications we can do, collect them on a webpage for everyone to enjoy and use, and be done with it.

Or one could buy the KS boxes that are known *not* to be fakes / have the same basic performance and move on in that direction with web pages etc….


> Cheers,
> Magnus
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